[tmtranscripts] Silence and Experiential Results
Geoff New Birth
Geoff at new-birth.net
Mon Dec 23 18:18:27 PST 2002
Hi Richard,
Love Without End, is a book written by Glenda Green, in the last few years.
This is her web site http://www.lovewithoutend.com She is a portrait
painter, and Jesus sat for her. The book is about the three months she spent
"talking" to Jesus. It is a fabulous book, which I thoroughly recommend,
particularly to folks that are orthodox, or maybe freaked out by spirit
contact. She has a Jesuit priest who has given his support, so you can tell
it is not going to freak folks out. The portrait is incredibly like the one
we have of James, that is to say, the family likeness is amazing, and also,
it matches a description we have been given of Jesus/Michael in Padgett's
time. There is some good stuff in that book.
Much love,
Geoff.
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Geoff,
Can you tell me what "Love Without End" is that you spoke of here.
(" As an aside, in Love Without End, Jesus describes yet another
approach to "Stillness" )
Thanks,
Richard Voss
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From: Geoff New Birth
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My dear Ron,
Thank you for your thoughts. I do not, as you put it, have a difficulty
with Team's Stillness practice. I thoroughly approve of it, and practice
much the same myself. I have an explanation, which is outside of theology,
which is as follows.
By opening yourself to soul to soul contact, you will grow your soul.
The soul is the only part of you that is infinite, or at least capable of
interacting with the infinite. Hence it is through the soul we learn to
commune with Father, or if you like, our TA. It is also possible to expand
one's mind, and to connect with creation, through the mind. But this does
not allow us to grow, as it were, our potential to be divine. And, without
growing our soul, we are frankly not going anywhere. And, so we have been
told, is the destiny of the majority of mortals. Even those who read the
Ubook, I would suggest, if they do not practice Stillness, or something
equivalent. As an aside, in Love Without End, Jesus describes yet another
approach to "Stillness" So there may be quite a few approaches. But all
require DESIRE on the part of the mortal to grow.
So, quite apart from the BENEFITS, that both you and Calvin (and I) have
itemised, this is to my mind absolutely critical for each of us who seek a
divine path. But, I have yet to see any such statement, or indeed any
explanation from your teachers. Padgett was certainly given a clear
explanation, but I would have liked to see your teachers do so. I think that
they may in fact be constrained by the UBook, because I don't think it says
anything either, and I realise that they find it hard to T/R material
outside that reference. We have a great deal of material about the
difficulty in T/Ring advanced spiritual material, and frankly, the only way
you are going to get better material from your teachers is by using T/R's
who have practised stillness for many years. Perhaps that is the case, I
certainly do not want to suggest otherwise. But it is very hard to receive
high level spiritual material. Equally it may be that your teachers are not
meant to "add" to the UBook, merely encourage you, as they are doing. So,
that may be the cause. If they only encourage, and are not permitted further
revelation.
I am very unwilling to put words in your minds. Which to some extent I
have done above.
Much love,
Geoff.
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I originally posted this to tmtalk last night forgetting each list
does not have everybody on it. So here are my views again to TML. Thanks
Calvin. Ron
Dear Geoff, Calvin, and List:
I understand some of the concept difficulty that Geoff may be
experiencing with the Team's stillness practice. Discussion between the two
of you are, however, just between theoretical concepts unless one can access
the other's experience and translate it to the language each is comfortable
with. I normally avoid discussing real results with the stillness (or what
ever else you may wish to call it), but I will make an exception among
friends. Thanks to the stillness process I do experience an extraordinarily
thorough Thought Adjuster contact. There are nothing like results, albeit
unexpected ones, to provide a third view of the concept under consideration.
In 1985 nothing worked in the meditation department for me. Either I
just fell asleep or I lost satisfactory mind control. Seeking relief from
self doubt, I abandoned the mantras, the crystals, the soothing music, the
warm-up pictures, candles, meditation tapes, and so on. The answer to the
problem for me was to get rid of all the stage props and to keep the purpose
of Thought Adjuster contact in front of me when I sat down, and that was
once a day every day, to make the contact.
Within six months I had mind control. Within one year I had deep and
restful contact with the spiritual parts of the mind. In three years I had
robust Thought Adjuster contact (1988). From 1988 to the present the
Adjuster has a constant tone "on" with audible give and take between us and
considerable amounts of semi-conscious work which I am aware of but can not
name its content.
The point I wish to make is if anyone wishes to have contact with the
Father as a constant presence and company, there is little else to do but
learn to do the work. Still the mind and deepen mind capacity while the
Father waits beside you as you labor to hear. It must become a habit and it
has to be all the time or the toning reached for by you in the mind and the
development once done in the spiritual circuits fades. To revitalize it by
failing to practice requires some readjustment by making the connection
again and again.
The need for the stillness WILL END. It will no longer be necessary
when the Adjuster makes his appearance in the consciousness centers with
audible circuitry as a PERMANENT member of the consciousness. It is a
permanent CO-CONSCIOUSNESS. It is no longer necessary to "listen", but now
one needs only respond to the constant flow of communication received in the
consciousness. It is thought to thought now.
There is a tremendous complexity in Adjuster contact. The Urantia
Book gives us a minimum contribution in telling us about it. It is really
new-consciousness territory and mostly beyond the bounds of revelation to
this date on the planet. I say to the list, if it is the desire of your
soul and your FIRST desire, you need to follow through completely with the
full physical and mental capacity at your disposal to do so. Use ALL of
your inside resources. If you do not know what resources you have, find
them in the silence, and then apply them in real time. Half measures
result in half results as my many years before 1985 proved for me time and
again.
Teacher contact and channeling, from what I can get from my Adjuster
and from what I learn from all of you, comes with some prerequisites of
development, but once the circle development is met and the wish to receive
is communicated, the channel or the transmission-receiving process can
unfold. In other words the Teachers can establish contact with a knock on
their door, but the Adjuster is less likely to answer the door with just a
few knocks because of the need to reinforce the mind bridge to take the
weight of the Adjuster moving in and with other needs we are not fully
apprised of.
There is simply no substitute for what is being called the quiet time,
the silence, and the sincere wish behind their practice to be connected up
to the higher-self. I am walking proof that it works as advertised, and
while I do not know anything else involved with the process, I ask you if it
is not enough to just have that? Anything else less would not be Adjuster
translation to the consciousness (although you can transmit or channel him
on occasion), and anything more would result in translation to the mansion
worlds.
You who channel or transmit-receive must practice with a connection
for many reasons. It's tough to go with what words you receive mentally and
to say them out loud to a listening group or even the tape recorder. You
are allowed to do this in a conscious state (Alpha), some in semi-conscious
(Beta), and very few in Delta(complete overcontrol). Then, when you are
done, the connection evaporates until the next nudge or some other appointed
time arrives to reopen the connection. There are time intervals in which
the channeler and transmitter-receiver are not consciously alerted to a
spiritual presence and word-activity connection. In these times you tend to
forget about it and go about your business as is necessary.
When the Adjuster translates from the superconsciousness through the
work of the quiet-time, silence, communion, worship, or other internal
spiritual connectivity, such an action is at the discretion of the Thought
Adjuster. We may have the Supreme desire to have it, but it is the Adjuster
who has to make that decision, and he can only do it when the mind has been
prepared through practice to develop the strength to receive this very
powerful part of the self. At least that is what I have gleaned from the
Adjuster I have. This translation from the highest spiritual levels of the
mind to the material consciousness is final. It will last until death or
translation as I understand it from my Adjuster. It does not leave you like
your circuit connections to the teachers or other channel information does.
There are no intervals of time without the Adjuster present even though he
may be (rarely) "quiet" sometimes. The Adjuster switch is never flipped
"off", but ever "on" upon completion of his status change from the
super-consciousness to the ego-area of awareness.
Those of you who have teachers or work in groups with teachers might
sometime ask them about this area of Adjuster translation to the ego-area of
awareness of consciousness, but such a development I believe must always be
preceded with the mind work done to strengthen the mind and to put into
place those robust connections that will serve as the bridge between the
pre-personal Adjuster and the material consciousness. This work is not
conscious when it begins, and in my case it was finished and then, to my
surprise, it suddenly was. I was not pre-warned. The Thought Adjuster, I
believe, uses that bridge to "cross over" to you and become the increasingly
personal Adjuster that we share partially now and fully after fusion. At
least it is my experience that the Adjuster is no longer completely
pre-personal with this development. Obviously he is not totally personal
either or I would not be writing you.
There is much to explore in your own practice of the stillness. There
is much to learn from your Adjuster that has lasting import for the future
that may be understood now and experienced in the material moment.
Because language is a problem about the necessity of these practices
it is important, whatever the language used to describe it, to TEACH
YOURSELF about this relationship. Others can not do this for you. It is not
so important to teach yourself about process, but to teach yourself to go
for results and develop your own terms about the meaning of what you have
learned.
My encouragement to you all!
Ron Besser
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