[tmtranscripts] Silence and Experiential Results

[Aronolac]

Hello, Geoff and List

I see that you agree more than you disagree with the idea of the silence.  I think I also see from your remarks that I am not completely following and perhaps you could clarify by doing this:

Put your concern about soul growth and the silence in the form of a question to a hypothetical teacher.  Maybe I would understand it better if I read the question.

I think I am inferring from your comments that  the "silence" is not a sufficient process to grow the soul.  Is that correct?

Is not any growth (aside from physical) also soul growth?  I thought it was, but you may not think so in certain cases?

As regard to the Urantia Book as the Teaching Mission text, I have indeed heard the teachers say that this is what they are sticking to.  But I have also seen with my own eyes the transcripts from teachers that, while not new revelation per the Urantia Book, so greatly expand a text concept that it literally adds more dimension to what the book has said.  And there IS new revelation from time to time from the teachers in spite of their preference to remain constrained by the limits of the text teachings.  Here are two examples from the top of my head:

1) Time line developments beyond the cut off date of the written text.  Examples: Declaration of the end of the Lucifer Rebellion with an approximate date;  the announcement of a new Dispensation in 1995;  the arrival of Michael on our planet where he keeps a "condo" to stay over once in a while; the use of a new name (Nebadonia) for our Mother Spirit;  Mother Spirits proclamations affecting Urantia; the announcement that Machiventa Melchizedek has been raised from the Vicegerancy (representing Michael) as Urantia's chief executing, to the full title of Planetary Prince.   All of these things (and more which I have not thought of I am sure), are revelatory beyond the pages of the Urantia Book.

2) There are some specifics which astounded me when I heard them that do go beyond the concepts given in the Urantia Book.  My favorite one was from Ham (by my recollection), when he said Sonarington was where the Creator Sons are personalized.  That makes perfect sense to me, but I never would have said such a thing out loud and the Urantia Book is silent about where Deity created beings appear in real forms after the act of (I assume) trinitization.  I also point to various discussions that have to do with the mansion worlds and the more personal views of their activities as given by the teachers that was not included in the text.  All of this is extremely valuable to a person like me (and I assume to others as well), and while these bits of important information are the exception, they come forward frequently enough to show that the teachers are not rigidly kept to words on a page.

We as witnesses (that includes you too, Geoff) to this program from which the silence concept has been emphasized can be lured into an expectation that what we are about to hear from the teachers is limited to what we are familiar with.  Your choice of the words, "advanced spiritual material", is frequently there between the lines of the banter and instruction and answers in the transcripts, but it can be easily missed unless one knows the concepts involved quite well.  What I am trying to say, to use another example to get to it, is if to put a washing machine together takes 4 bolts, and the Urantia Book mentions only two of them, we do not have all we need to understand a finished washing machine.  However, the teachers are prone to have the finished concept in their minds already and in passing remarks on other issues may actually tell us about the four bolts.  It is about a level of details that is supplied sometimes naturally by the teachers but which we miss variously due to familiarity (or lack of) with the Urantia Book, while we are busy looking for the more spectacular news from them.  I hope I am being clear about this.

To be honest with you, you are not the first to point out that the teaching mission lacks the glamour of  being in the presence of fresh revelation and therefore generally lacks the sense of news.  I have seen so many who read the Urantia Book be put off by the Teaching Mission because they do not "sound" like the book.  Well, without the book, there would be no teaching mission in my opinion, but these activities are two very different parts of a jigsaw puzzle.  The two parts while related sound very different just by themselves.  In a way, The Urantia Book is the border of the jigsaw puzzle setting limits on what the picture contains and the Teaching Mission fills in the day-to-day details of the picture allowed. 

Really new epochal information, should it be given again in similar circumstances, would likely have an entirely different and secure pass through meaning that such revelation would be through reflectivation (to use their term) and Adjuster liaison and not involve the teachers themselves.  But practically speaking, it is more likely we will receive new epochal revelation from our Magisterial Son (Monjoronson) when he wishes to make himself available to the Urantia classroom.  In fact, would you agree with me that by his mere appearance in an official capacity that that shall constitute new epochal revelation as well?

However, it is said that we learn best when we can receive criticism about what we accept as a way to do something.  That something is the "silence", and I personally do not believe it can be practiced by two people the same way, so every person is a new approach even though most accept that it should lead to a more centered personal life and accrue the spiritual benefits of Thought Adjuster contact as one spiritually grows through the practice.  I am not quite sure I understand why having soul to supersoul (the Father) contact will not lead to the growth you suggest that soul to soul contact has.  I really would like to hear your reasoning (via Padgett if necessary) as to why this distinction should exist at all?

I am sorry for the length of this post, but I must say you did touch upon some sensitive areas that need aired to understand them.

Thanks
Ron Besser 
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  From: Geoff New Birth 
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  Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 8:10 PM
  Subject: RE: [tmtranscripts] Silence and Experiential Results


  My dear Ron,

  Thank you for your thoughts. I do not, as you put it, have a difficulty with Team's Stillness practice. I thoroughly approve of it, and practice much the same myself. I have an explanation, which is outside of theology, which is as follows.

  By opening yourself to soul to soul contact, you will grow your soul. The soul is the only part of you that is infinite, or at least capable of interacting with the infinite. Hence it is through the soul we learn to commune with Father, or if you like, our TA. It is also possible to expand one's mind, and to connect with creation, through the mind. But this does not allow us to grow, as it were, our potential to be divine. And, without growing our soul, we are frankly not going anywhere. And, so we have been told, is the destiny of the majority of mortals. Even those who read the Ubook, I would suggest, if they do not practice Stillness, or something equivalent. As an aside, in Love Without End, Jesus describes yet another approach to "Stillness" So there may be quite a few approaches. But all require DESIRE on the part of the mortal to grow.

  So, quite apart from the BENEFITS, that both you and Calvin (and I) have itemised, this is to my mind absolutely critical for each of us who seek a divine path. But, I have yet to see any such statement, or indeed any explanation from your teachers. Padgett was certainly given a clear explanation, but I would have liked to see your teachers do so. I think that they may in fact be constrained by the UBook, because I don't think it says anything either, and I realise that they find it hard to T/R material outside that reference. We have a great deal of material about the difficulty in T/Ring advanced spiritual material, and frankly, the only way you are going to get better material from your teachers is by using T/R's who have practised stillness for many years. Perhaps that is the case, I certainly do not want to suggest otherwise. But it is very hard to receive high level spiritual material. Equally it may be that your teachers are not meant to "add" to the UBook, merely encourage you, as they are doing. So, that may be the cause. If they only encourage, and are not permitted further revelation.

  I am very unwilling to put words in your minds. Which to some extent I have done above.

  Much love,
  Geoff.
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    I originally posted this to tmtalk last night forgetting each list does not have everybody on it.  So here are my views again to TML.  Thanks Calvin.   Ron

    Dear Geoff, Calvin, and List:

    I understand some of the concept difficulty that Geoff may be experiencing with the Team's stillness practice.  Discussion between the two of you are, however, just between theoretical concepts unless one can access the other's experience and translate it to the language each is comfortable with.  I normally avoid discussing real results with the stillness (or what ever else you may wish to call it), but I will make an exception among friends. Thanks to the stillness process I do experience an extraordinarily thorough Thought Adjuster contact.  There are nothing like results, albeit unexpected ones, to provide a third view of the concept under consideration.

    In 1985 nothing worked in the meditation department for me.  Either I just fell asleep or I lost satisfactory mind control.  Seeking relief from self doubt, I abandoned the mantras, the crystals, the soothing music, the warm-up pictures, candles, meditation tapes, and so on.  The answer to the problem for me was to get rid of all the stage props and to keep the purpose of Thought Adjuster contact in front of me when I sat down, and that was once a day every day, to make the contact.

    Within six months I had mind control.  Within one year I had deep and restful contact with the spiritual parts of the mind.  In three years I had robust Thought Adjuster contact (1988).  From 1988 to the present the Adjuster has a constant tone "on"  with audible give and take between us and considerable amounts of semi-conscious work which I am aware of but can not name its content.

    The point I wish to make is if anyone wishes to have contact with the Father as a constant presence and company, there is little else to do but learn to do the work.   Still the mind and deepen mind capacity while the Father waits beside you as you labor to hear.  It must become a habit and it has to be all the time or the toning reached for by you in the mind and the development once done in the spiritual circuits fades.   To revitalize it by failing to practice requires some readjustment by making the connection again and again.

    The need for the stillness WILL END.  It will no longer be necessary when the Adjuster makes his appearance in the consciousness centers with audible circuitry as a PERMANENT member of the consciousness.  It is a permanent CO-CONSCIOUSNESS.  It is no longer necessary to "listen", but now one needs only respond to the constant flow of communication received in the consciousness.  It is thought to thought now.

    There is a tremendous complexity in Adjuster contact.  The Urantia Book gives us a minimum contribution in telling us about it.  It is really new-consciousness territory and mostly beyond the bounds of revelation to this date on the planet.  I say to the list, if it is the desire of your soul and your FIRST desire,  you need to follow through completely with the full physical and mental capacity at your disposal  to do so.  Use ALL of your inside resources.  If you do not know what resources you have, find them in the silence, and then apply them in real time.     Half measures result in half results as my many years before 1985 proved for me time and again.

    Teacher contact and channeling, from what I can get from my Adjuster and from what I learn from all of you, comes with some prerequisites of development, but once the circle development is met and the wish to receive is communicated, the channel or the transmission-receiving process can unfold.  In other words the Teachers can establish contact with a knock on their door, but the Adjuster is less likely to answer the door with just a few knocks because of the need to reinforce the mind bridge to take the weight of the Adjuster moving in and with other needs we are not fully apprised of.

    There is simply no substitute for what is being called the quiet time, the silence, and the sincere wish behind their practice to be connected up to the higher-self.  I am walking proof that it works as advertised, and while I do not know anything else involved with the process, I ask you if it is not enough to just have that?  Anything else less would not be Adjuster translation to the consciousness (although you can transmit or channel him on occasion), and anything more would result in translation to the mansion worlds.

    You who channel or transmit-receive must practice with a connection for many reasons.  It's tough to go with what words you receive mentally and to say them out loud to a listening group or even the tape recorder.  You are allowed to do this in a conscious state (Alpha), some in semi-conscious (Beta), and very few in Delta(complete overcontrol).  Then, when you are done, the connection evaporates until the next nudge or some other appointed time arrives to reopen the connection.  There are time intervals in which the channeler and transmitter-receiver are not consciously alerted to a spiritual presence and word-activity connection.  In these times you tend to forget about it and go about your business as is necessary.

    When the Adjuster translates from the superconsciousness through the work of the quiet-time, silence, communion, worship, or other internal spiritual connectivity, such an action is at the discretion of the Thought Adjuster.  We may have the Supreme desire to have it, but it is the Adjuster who has to make that decision, and he can only do it  when the mind has been prepared through practice to develop the strength to receive this very powerful part of the self.   At least that is what I have gleaned from the Adjuster I have.  This translation from the highest spiritual levels of the mind to the material consciousness is final.  It will last until death or translation as I understand it from my Adjuster.  It does not leave you like your circuit connections to the teachers or other channel information does.  There are no intervals of time without the Adjuster present even though he may be (rarely) "quiet" sometimes.  The Adjuster switch is never flipped  "off",  but ever "on" upon completion of his status change from the super-consciousness to the ego-area of awareness.

    Those of you who have teachers or work in groups with teachers might sometime ask them about this area of Adjuster translation to the ego-area of awareness of consciousness, but such a development I believe must always be preceded with the mind work done to strengthen the mind and to put into place those robust connections that will serve as the bridge between the pre-personal Adjuster and the material consciousness.  This work is not conscious when it begins, and in my case it was finished and then, to my surprise, it suddenly was.  I was not pre-warned.   The Thought Adjuster, I believe, uses that bridge to "cross over" to you and become the increasingly personal Adjuster that we share partially now and fully after fusion.  At least it is my experience that the Adjuster is no longer completely pre-personal with this development.  Obviously he is not totally personal either or I would not be writing you.

    There is much to explore in your own practice of the stillness.  There is much to learn from your Adjuster that has lasting import for the future that may be understood now and experienced in the material moment.

    Because language is a problem about the necessity of these practices it is important, whatever the language used to describe it, to TEACH YOURSELF about this relationship. Others can not do this for you.  It is not so important to teach yourself about process, but to teach yourself to go for results and develop your own terms about the meaning of what you have learned.

    My encouragement to you all!
    Ron Besser
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