[tmtranscripts] Silence and Experiential Results
Richard Voss
xroadtec at attbi.com
Mon Dec 23 17:43:34 PST 2002
Geoff,
Can you tell me what "Love Without End" is that you spoke of here.
(" As an aside, in Love Without End, Jesus describes yet another approach to "Stillness" )
Thanks,
Richard Voss
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From: Geoff New Birth
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Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 5:10 PM
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My dear Ron,
Thank you for your thoughts. I do not, as you put it, have a difficulty with Team's Stillness practice. I thoroughly approve of it, and practice much the same myself. I have an explanation, which is outside of theology, which is as follows.
By opening yourself to soul to soul contact, you will grow your soul. The soul is the only part of you that is infinite, or at least capable of interacting with the infinite. Hence it is through the soul we learn to commune with Father, or if you like, our TA. It is also possible to expand one's mind, and to connect with creation, through the mind. But this does not allow us to grow, as it were, our potential to be divine. And, without growing our soul, we are frankly not going anywhere. And, so we have been told, is the destiny of the majority of mortals. Even those who read the Ubook, I would suggest, if they do not practice Stillness, or something equivalent. As an aside, in Love Without End, Jesus describes yet another approach to "Stillness" So there may be quite a few approaches. But all require DESIRE on the part of the mortal to grow.
So, quite apart from the BENEFITS, that both you and Calvin (and I) have itemised, this is to my mind absolutely critical for each of us who seek a divine path. But, I have yet to see any such statement, or indeed any explanation from your teachers. Padgett was certainly given a clear explanation, but I would have liked to see your teachers do so. I think that they may in fact be constrained by the UBook, because I don't think it says anything either, and I realise that they find it hard to T/R material outside that reference. We have a great deal of material about the difficulty in T/Ring advanced spiritual material, and frankly, the only way you are going to get better material from your teachers is by using T/R's who have practised stillness for many years. Perhaps that is the case, I certainly do not want to suggest otherwise. But it is very hard to receive high level spiritual material. Equally it may be that your teachers are not meant to "add" to the UBook, merely encourage you, as they are doing. So, that may be the cause. If they only encourage, and are not permitted further revelation.
I am very unwilling to put words in your minds. Which to some extent I have done above.
Much love,
Geoff.
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Subject: [tmtranscripts] Silence and Experiential Results
I originally posted this to tmtalk last night forgetting each list does not have everybody on it. So here are my views again to TML. Thanks Calvin. Ron
Dear Geoff, Calvin, and List:
I understand some of the concept difficulty that Geoff may be experiencing with the Team's stillness practice. Discussion between the two of you are, however, just between theoretical concepts unless one can access the other's experience and translate it to the language each is comfortable with. I normally avoid discussing real results with the stillness (or what ever else you may wish to call it), but I will make an exception among friends. Thanks to the stillness process I do experience an extraordinarily thorough Thought Adjuster contact. There are nothing like results, albeit unexpected ones, to provide a third view of the concept under consideration.
In 1985 nothing worked in the meditation department for me. Either I just fell asleep or I lost satisfactory mind control. Seeking relief from self doubt, I abandoned the mantras, the crystals, the soothing music, the warm-up pictures, candles, meditation tapes, and so on. The answer to the problem for me was to get rid of all the stage props and to keep the purpose of Thought Adjuster contact in front of me when I sat down, and that was once a day every day, to make the contact.
Within six months I had mind control. Within one year I had deep and restful contact with the spiritual parts of the mind. In three years I had robust Thought Adjuster contact (1988). From 1988 to the present the Adjuster has a constant tone "on" with audible give and take between us and considerable amounts of semi-conscious work which I am aware of but can not name its content.
The point I wish to make is if anyone wishes to have contact with the Father as a constant presence and company, there is little else to do but learn to do the work. Still the mind and deepen mind capacity while the Father waits beside you as you labor to hear. It must become a habit and it has to be all the time or the toning reached for by you in the mind and the development once done in the spiritual circuits fades. To revitalize it by failing to practice requires some readjustment by making the connection again and again.
The need for the stillness WILL END. It will no longer be necessary when the Adjuster makes his appearance in the consciousness centers with audible circuitry as a PERMANENT member of the consciousness. It is a permanent CO-CONSCIOUSNESS. It is no longer necessary to "listen", but now one needs only respond to the constant flow of communication received in the consciousness. It is thought to thought now.
There is a tremendous complexity in Adjuster contact. The Urantia Book gives us a minimum contribution in telling us about it. It is really new-consciousness territory and mostly beyond the bounds of revelation to this date on the planet. I say to the list, if it is the desire of your soul and your FIRST desire, you need to follow through completely with the full physical and mental capacity at your disposal to do so. Use ALL of your inside resources. If you do not know what resources you have, find them in the silence, and then apply them in real time. Half measures result in half results as my many years before 1985 proved for me time and again.
Teacher contact and channeling, from what I can get from my Adjuster and from what I learn from all of you, comes with some prerequisites of development, but once the circle development is met and the wish to receive is communicated, the channel or the transmission-receiving process can unfold. In other words the Teachers can establish contact with a knock on their door, but the Adjuster is less likely to answer the door with just a few knocks because of the need to reinforce the mind bridge to take the weight of the Adjuster moving in and with other needs we are not fully apprised of.
There is simply no substitute for what is being called the quiet time, the silence, and the sincere wish behind their practice to be connected up to the higher-self. I am walking proof that it works as advertised, and while I do not know anything else involved with the process, I ask you if it is not enough to just have that? Anything else less would not be Adjuster translation to the consciousness (although you can transmit or channel him on occasion), and anything more would result in translation to the mansion worlds.
You who channel or transmit-receive must practice with a connection for many reasons. It's tough to go with what words you receive mentally and to say them out loud to a listening group or even the tape recorder. You are allowed to do this in a conscious state (Alpha), some in semi-conscious (Beta), and very few in Delta(complete overcontrol). Then, when you are done, the connection evaporates until the next nudge or some other appointed time arrives to reopen the connection. There are time intervals in which the channeler and transmitter-receiver are not consciously alerted to a spiritual presence and word-activity connection. In these times you tend to forget about it and go about your business as is necessary.
When the Adjuster translates from the superconsciousness through the work of the quiet-time, silence, communion, worship, or other internal spiritual connectivity, such an action is at the discretion of the Thought Adjuster. We may have the Supreme desire to have it, but it is the Adjuster who has to make that decision, and he can only do it when the mind has been prepared through practice to develop the strength to receive this very powerful part of the self. At least that is what I have gleaned from the Adjuster I have. This translation from the highest spiritual levels of the mind to the material consciousness is final. It will last until death or translation as I understand it from my Adjuster. It does not leave you like your circuit connections to the teachers or other channel information does. There are no intervals of time without the Adjuster present even though he may be (rarely) "quiet" sometimes. The Adjuster switch is never flipped "off", but ever "on" upon completion of his status change from the super-consciousness to the ego-area of awareness.
Those of you who have teachers or work in groups with teachers might sometime ask them about this area of Adjuster translation to the ego-area of awareness of consciousness, but such a development I believe must always be preceded with the mind work done to strengthen the mind and to put into place those robust connections that will serve as the bridge between the pre-personal Adjuster and the material consciousness. This work is not conscious when it begins, and in my case it was finished and then, to my surprise, it suddenly was. I was not pre-warned. The Thought Adjuster, I believe, uses that bridge to "cross over" to you and become the increasingly personal Adjuster that we share partially now and fully after fusion. At least it is my experience that the Adjuster is no longer completely pre-personal with this development. Obviously he is not totally personal either or I would not be writing you.
There is much to explore in your own practice of the stillness. There is much to learn from your Adjuster that has lasting import for the future that may be understood now and experienced in the material moment.
Because language is a problem about the necessity of these practices it is important, whatever the language used to describe it, to TEACH YOURSELF about this relationship. Others can not do this for you. It is not so important to teach yourself about process, but to teach yourself to go for results and develop your own terms about the meaning of what you have learned.
My encouragement to you all!
Ron Besser
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