[tmtranscripts] SLC UT group -- is not affiliated w/Woods Cross UT group.

Thea Hardy thea at pathworks.net
Mon Dec 12 17:08:27 PST 2005


Please Warren, not on tmtranscripts.

Thea

>Hello Brethren,
>
>I will address only two areas here, as Calvin has again resorted to
>undermining that which does not meet with his personal ideas and
>expectations of "what the Teaching Mission is all about". Since Thea
>has also chimed in with her personal feelings, I now feel that is
>most appropriate to clarify what Calvin states below (ignorning
>Thea's remarks), and allow all to see his allegations for just what
>they are - "his allegations". Calvin insinuates that there is no
>group involvement in the below three transmissions (far below) from
>the SLC Teaching Mission Group, which were communicated to our
>group last night, 12/11/05. This is not so.
>
>Firstly, since our SLC Group was formed in October of 2004, we have
>had 38 meetings. These meeting were never held when only one
>individual was present. Participation has ranged from
>10-12 participants, with several meetings having been conducted when
>only two of us were present. Last night was one such meeting, as
>myself and my 15 year-old son Warren III (aka Ryan) were the only
>two mortals present.
>
>Secondly, for the record, unlike the Woods Cross Group, which
>only PERMITS one individual to T/R, all but PROHIBITING other
>T/Rs, our group welcomes any and all who desire to fellowship
>and all who desire to T/R, according to the leadings of their
>indwelling Father Fragments. The primary reason that the SLC Group
>was formed, having "spun-off" from the Wood's Cross Group, was to
>allow all sincere truth-seekers to get together without the binding
>limitations and preconceived notions held by a number of those
>within the Wood's Cross Group, who clearly desired/desire to conform
>to an unspoken uniformity, which has been well-known to promote and
>even exalt base "mediocrity".
>
>The SLC Teaching Mission Group is the second such group that has
>broken off from the Wood's Cross Group, the first split (comprising
>eight-ten
>individuals) having occurred in October of 2003. This promising
>group held only eight or nine meetings (none having been
>transcribed), until "gifted" T/R Loralee Humphries moved to Las
>Vegas at the end of 2003 and the group disbanded because there were
>no confident and/or seasoned public T/Rs to act as group
>"anchors". Ham had some comments to make on this initial split from
>the Wood's Cross group which I include below Calvin's statement made
>earlier today, an excerpt from his post to tmtranscripts.
>
>Calvin states today (excerpt): I'll say it again and again ...
>there is danger in the psyche of mind and in spiritual soundness
>when an individual seeks to TR and leaves the safeguard of the
>group buffer, and starts an individual campaign.
>
>
>
>Communication from Ham
>Received by Marshall
>Salt Lake City, Utah
>October 6, 2003
>
>
>Marshall, my friend, this is Ham, your friend and guide along your
>spiritual path of progression. I am so pleased, even thrilled, my
>brother, to see that plans are in motion to begin a new Teaching
>Mission family group in your area. The individuals that have
>expressed a desire to reach into new areas of truth indeed have
>great talents and abilities to offer all involved. I am very excited
>about the great potential involved here. Know that this new group,
>breaking off from the core CT/TM group (wood's Cross Teaching
>Mission Group), the first of such in this country, even on your
>planet, is a subject very close to my heart. As you know, I was
>their first teacher and although there were four individuals in New
>Zealand that began our conscious fraternization with the mortals of
>your planet, your Woods Cross group was the pioneer group of Urantia
>Book readers to embrace us.
>
>My dear brother, the time is right for this branching out as you and
>others have perceived.
>
>You did well to offer to keep this desired expansion within your
>core group of Abraham's students. You now know that most of those
>older core group members are not at this time prepared for such an
>abrupt expansion and reception of higher truth. Some of you within
>this group are growing more rapidly than others and your growing
>light of truth requires an enhanced format with greater opportunity
>to accept higher teachings and experiment with evolving intellectual
>and spiritual techniques and acquirements. You were correct and
>altogether perceptive in seeing this need and initiating the
>confrontation that has allowed all to proceed.
>
>For some time now it has been evident that this break-off was
>inevitable as some have become quite capable T/Rs, as well as
>learning healing techniques and other skills. The Saturday morning
>meetings have been a good training ground for such development and
>the time is ripe for this new formation as a number of you are
>clearly realizing. There are many possibilities here, Marshall, and
>your collective thoughts and ideas will need to be discussed and
>decisions made as to your individual and collective needs and
>desires. The idea of a get-together dinner and conference between
>those present will be all that is necessary to begin the process.
>All individuals involved are evolved enough to deal effectively with
>a compromise agreed upon by all.
>
>Know that many unseen personalities, including myself and those
>teachers working with all mortals present, will be anxiously
>anticipating this get-together. At this time you can be assured that
>all present will have constructive input and be eager to arrive at
>an initial format that will provide a flexible foundation on which
>to construct higher truth and evolving realities.
>
>Be considering what you truly desire, my friend, as you encourage
>all others to do the same. Your Thought Adjusters will let each know
>what it is that you need and desire. This will lead to very
>interesting times ahead, Marshall. Again, well done in instigating
>what you are each beginning to visualize. Carry on and call on me
>when you choose. Until later.
>
>END
>
>
>
>
>Hope this helps to clarify....
>
>Warren C. Smith II (aka Marshall)
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:thea at pathworks.net>Thea Hardy
>To:
><mailto:tmtranscripts at circuit1.teamcircuits.com>tmtranscripts at circuit1.teamcircuits.com
>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 3:31 PM
>Subject: Re: [tmtranscripts] SLC UT group -- is not affiliated
>w/Woods Cross UT group.
>
>Hi Calvin,
>
>However much I may agree with you, I need to point out that only
>your first sentence is in accord with tmtranscript guidelines. We do
>not discuss these issues other than clarifications on this list.
>Anyone interested in a continutation of this discussion can go to
>tmtalk and post questions to you.
>
>Thanks for willing to follow list guidelines - tmtranscripts is not
>an entirely descriptive list name from the perspective of some of
>us, but has become a clearinghouse for multiple resources.
>
>Love,
>
>Thea
>
>> "SLC Utah group" is not the same group, nor associated with
>>the "Woods Cross group" which present the on-going Abraham/Mary/
>>Emulan weekly lessons.
>>
>
>
>...lest there be confusion.
>
>
>
>Again, in my experience and opinion, a lot of unreality has usurped
>this Mission list--in the name of this 'Teaching Mission.' Right or
>wrong, it is apparently hard for me to stay silent about it. Neither
>will I seek favorable opinions from any here on this list by
>offering supportive complements. To me, it is an appalling set-back
>to the Mission's realness, yet I am aware that Father's hand is in
>all things and surely these things are in his control, not mine, or
>ours.
>
>
>
>The question is: do we have a responsibility to this missions
>wellness? Do we have some obligation to what is printed,
>conferenced, or hailed on these 'mission lists?' I say yes, we
>do. Should we have up-front in-the-open discussion about these
>things? Why not? We have been taught to have a questioning and
>learning mind, not an "accept anything" mind, and that no truth is
>without honest examination.
>
>
>
>There is a vast gulf of difference in realness, practicality and
>truth between the Mission lessons I have been involved in these past
>many years since 1991, and the current wave of some, such as this
>below, which sound the horn "monjoronsion is on the planet" ...
>with the toots of "and you special higher-evolved than your fellows
>ones, will be my chosen/ staff."
>
>
>
>Once again here ... I don't judge the TR or their motives, but I can
>and should judge the message and comment on it's impact. I
>understand--having gone through these same excitements myself in
>earlier mission-years ... but it didn't make it truth then because
>we were zealous about the hype of that time, and it doesn't make it
>truth now.
>
>
>
>I'll say it again and again ... there is danger in the psyche of
>mind and in spiritual soundness when an individual seeks to TR and
>leaves the safeguard of the group buffer, and starts an individual
>campaign. Sooner or later comes feelings and expressions of
>superiority, predictions and warnings, and then if lessons of
>hummiliation do not reach the psyche, sooner or later comes the
>punch.
>
>
>
>I am aware this comment will draw the darts from the usuals, but I
>really don't worry any more about that. I am concerned of the
>wellness and the realness our Mission and how it is being presented
>to the masses.
>
>
>
>I don't have my shorts tied in a knot over it, nor am I feeling
>engaged to go on the war path here, but I will speak up from time to
>time, as I do, and otherwise be about my daily living and learning.
>
>
>
>If anyone feels so inclined please post this on tml. Perhaps I need
>to just subscribe again there myself. The bummer here is, these
>types transmissions do come out on tmtranscript where some are only
>subscribed there, and it is not a forum for discussion. I don't
>think truthseekers will ultimately be hoodwinked, but it does bring
>about a sidetrack and a confusion as to just what is "The Teaching
>Mission."
>
>
>
>Waren, I don't want to engage in any unbrotherly tit for tat here.
>We can speak our feelings responsibly without opening a can of
>cancerous worms agian. That is what I hope as this is not a
>Warren/Calvin thing ... it would be the same no matter whoever, as
>I've expressed in other instances such as recent.
>
>
>
>
>
>Calvin
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Warren Smith <warrensmith at xmission.com>
>
>To: tmtranscripts at circuit1.teamcircuits.com
>Sent: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:24:10 -0700
>Subject: [tmtranscripts] SLC Utah Teaching Mission Group Meeting #38 12/11/05
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>SLC Utah Teaching Mission Group Meeting #38
>
>At Marshall?s and Ryan?s Home
>
>12/11/05
>
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>Teacher(s):
>
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>Julianna: T/R Marshall
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>Tonsah: T/R Ryan
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>Monjoronson: Marshall
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>Julianna: Good evening , my brothers and new friends. A wonderful
>occasion it is to sit and listen to you discuss those issues which
>are close to your heart as you express your intentions and desires
>in this most beautiful setting this evening. I am Julianna and am
>thrilled to be in your company. Know that there are many
>(unseens) gathered around tonight in the audience who
>enthusiastically sit by in anticipation of new awareness descending
>upon each of you.
>
>
>
>I came into contact with Marshall just a couple of nights ago, as he
>allowed me to impart to him the assistance he was desirous of in a
>new poem that he willed to comprise. I encourage each of you to
>better get to know me, for I have many thrilling lessons to bring to
>each of you.
>
>
>
>As an unrevealed personality of the same order as Serena, I will be
>working with a number of individuals on Urantia who care to open
>their hearts and minds to the great new miracles that are showering
>upon this cherished planet. The planet is astir with great activity,
>with new personalities arriving daily. These times are truly
>magnificent times, my new friends, and you will find that during
>such times as these, great new gifts can be embraced if you only
>reach within, and with willful desire, ask for new awareness to
>descend upon you.
>
>
>
>As you go about your daily stillness meditation, reach deep within
>into whole new levels, allowing Mother Spirit to guide you closer
>and closer to the indwelling Father Fragment within each of you, who
>so desires that you increasingly implement new techniques and
>methods of approach that will bring you more and more attuned and
>aligned with Him.
>
>
>
>Each of you are receiving great lessons as you are rehearsed during
>your time of sleep. During these times, much is being imparted that
>you may not even be remotely conscious of , but I assure you, my
>dear brothers, that you only need willfully desire to receive the
>attunements and adjustments that occur during these times of sleep
>in the superconscious mind, and you shall receive this great
>training that will prepare you for the times which are soon to be
>upon us.
>
>
>
>During your times of stillness, as you consciously allow yourself to
>reach into that citadel within your mind, and with willful desire
>receive all that your Father Fragments are desirious of conveying,
>you allow yourselves to be re-vitalized, energized and charged with
>new awareness and God-consciousness. It is during these times of
>stillness that you allow yourself to open up to receive the greatest
>benefits, thus preparing you to become most effective in these
>exciting times just down the road and around the bend, where you
>will find yourselves accepting new tasks and assignments that will
>further prepare you for the great missions you each have upon this
>rapidly changing planet.
>
>
>
>Dear brothers, open your hearts and minds, and realize that by
>willfully desiring to release those limitations that act as
>impediments to higher soul and mindal development, you make possible
>the opening of new doors, which will bring you to whole new levels
>of operation that are beyond your wildest dreams and imagination..
>
>
>
>I am very pleased to introduce myself and address the two of you
>tonight. I reiterate, I am here for you and I am most thrilled to be
>in your company this evening and truly look forward to becoming
>great new friends with each of you, as I work with you closely on
>new lessons and teachings that you are becoming ready for. I will
>take my leave and allow another to speak. Until later, my new
>friends and brothers.
>
>
>
>Tonsah: Hello and good evening, my friends. This is Tonsah. I am
>glad to be here for this very productive meeting. With all that is
>going on, and with the circuitry you are allowing youselves to
>become connected to, this is a very critical time for change,
>as make the highest decisions, doing what you truly feel is right.
>As I watch carefully over the two of you and observe the great
>abilities and talents that you both possess, I am very proud of
>you, especially considering what you two have gone through.
>
>
>
>During these times of blending with your morontia minds, you will
>come across great challenges which will test your skills of
>readiness for this Mission. What you two have is nothing that
>anybody else has. All are unique, and in certain ways all will
>contribute in their different styles. As you walk with faith, be
>encouraged that you are carefully watched over, cared for and loved
>very much.
>
>
>
>You each have confidence and are definitely open for so many things
>that others are not. As you are readied, you will each become
>pioneers in what is about to occur upon this world. There is no
>specific timeframe, but when the time is right, it will occur. As
>you get into stillness, try to tap into deeper levels that will
>bring your awareness levels up and leave you open for the new gifts
>that you will be given.
>
>
>
>In time, you will know what change is and how you can make
>everything so much better or worse, depending on your decisions. You
>must first get grounded and become stabilized, and not try to do too
>much at once. You have both gone through some hard times and it is
>now time to come back and rise above it. You will have great
>opportunities and will be given so much in spirit that should help
>you in everything. I believe that you two have what it takes, and I
>know for sure that when you are ready you will be able to take on
>the challenges you face. Whenever you feel that you are having
>problems, bring them into your time with spirit, taking them deep
>within to your indwelling Father. Ask Him to reveal why you are
>having such a hard time, or ask Him for help and be open to accept
>it. The answers will always come to you, but you must be open to
>accept them. It is very important to give eve! rything over to Him.
>
>
>
>It is time to act and move into the light and allow great new
>changes to occur. I know that you are ready, but you must also know
>that you are ready. I love you both, very much, and am open to talk
>with you at any time. Give over all that you have deep within you,
>and ask for help in uncovering all your feelings for what they
>really are. Be patient and know that all will come. Don?t wait for
>it, but be ready for it. The time is whenever you choose. It is when
>you are ready.
>
>
>
>Again, contact me whenever you choose, as I am always here for you,
>along with many others. Our group builds in unseens. When you have
>the need, there are many wanting to talk with you, and in time you
>will be able to meet these personalities, and will learn very much,
>for they have a lot to offer you and are very excited in working
>with you. Go throughout the day and know you are watched over and
>cared for. Be at peace within your minds and souls. Do not fear, for
>there is nothing to fear. I take my leave.
>
>
>
>Monjoronson: Good evening, my dear sons. It has been a joy to behold
>each of you this evening and observe your true inner desires to
>become all you can become. This is Monjoronson , and I assure you
>that each of you are becoming prepared and groomed to serve as
>mighty mortals upon my staff.
>
>
>
>I am here (on Urantia) and in the process of materializing, and look
>forward to your renewed commitment to serve as my apostles,
>representing my presence to your brothers and sisters in the flesh.
>I touch your hearts with my peace and mercy, and assure you that as
>you walk hand in hand with Mother Spirit and Michael (Jesus), you
>will be increasingly led to new levels of operation that will allow
>you to be great channels for our Paradise Father?s love.
>
>
>
>My sons, it is an honor to be in your presence tonight, and I
>encourage you to call upon me. Know that great changes are taking
>place within each of you. My peace goes with you. Good evening.
>
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>END
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