[tmtranscripts] SLC UT group -- is not affiliated w/Woods Cross UT group.

[Warren Smith]

Re: [tmtranscripts] SLC UT group -- is not affiliated w/WoHello Brethren,

I will address only two areas here, as Calvin has again resorted to undermining that which does not meet with his personal ideas and expectations of "what the Teaching Mission is all about". Since Thea has also chimed in with her personal feelings, I now feel that is most appropriate to clarify what Calvin states below (ignorning Thea's remarks), and allow all to see his allegations for just what they are - "his allegations". Calvin insinuates that there is no group involvement in the below three transmissions (far below) from the SLC Teaching Mission Group, which were communicated to our group last night, 12/11/05. This is not so. 

Firstly, since our SLC Group was formed in October of 2004, we have had 38 meetings. These meeting were never held when only one individual was present. Participation has ranged from 10-12 participants, with several meetings having been conducted when only two of us were present. Last night was one such meeting, as myself and my 15 year-old son Warren III (aka Ryan) were the only two mortals present.

Secondly, for the record, unlike the Woods Cross Group, which only PERMITS one individual to T/R, all but PROHIBITING other T/Rs, our group welcomes any and all who desire to fellowship and all who desire to T/R, according to the leadings of their indwelling Father Fragments. The primary reason that the SLC Group was formed, having "spun-off" from the Wood's Cross Group, was to allow all sincere truth-seekers to get together without the binding limitations and preconceived notions held by a number of those within the Wood's Cross Group, who clearly desired/desire to conform to an unspoken uniformity, which has been well-known to promote and even exalt base "mediocrity". 

The SLC Teaching Mission Group is the second such group that has broken off from the Wood's Cross Group, the first split (comprising eight-ten
individuals) having occurred in October of 2003. This promising group held only eight or nine meetings (none having been transcribed), until "gifted" T/R Loralee Humphries moved to Las Vegas at the end of 2003 and the group disbanded because there were no confident and/or seasoned public T/Rs to act as group "anchors". Ham had some comments to make on this initial split from the Wood's Cross group which I include below Calvin's statement made earlier today, an excerpt from his post to tmtranscripts.

Calvin states today (excerpt):  I'll say it again and again ... there is danger in the psyche of mind and in spiritual soundness when an individual seeks to TR and leaves the safeguard of the group buffer, and starts an individual campaign. 



Communication from Ham 
Received by Marshall
Salt Lake City, Utah
October 6, 2003


Marshall, my friend, this is Ham, your friend and guide along your spiritual path of progression. I am so pleased, even thrilled, my brother, to see that plans are in motion to begin a new Teaching Mission family group in your area. The individuals that have expressed a desire to reach into new areas of truth indeed have great talents and abilities to offer all involved. I am very excited about the great potential involved here. Know that this new group, breaking off from the core CT/TM group (wood's Cross Teaching Mission Group), the first of such in this country, even on your planet, is a subject very close to my heart. As you know, I was their first teacher and although there were four individuals in New Zealand that began our conscious fraternization with the mortals of your planet, your Woods Cross group was the pioneer group of Urantia Book readers to embrace us. 

My dear brother, the time is right for this branching out as you and others have perceived.

You did well to offer to keep this desired expansion within your core group of Abraham's students. You now know that most of those older core group members are not at this time prepared for such an abrupt expansion and reception of higher truth. Some of you within this group are growing more rapidly than others and your growing light of truth requires an enhanced format with greater opportunity to accept higher teachings and experiment with evolving intellectual and spiritual techniques and acquirements. You were correct and altogether perceptive in seeing this need and initiating the confrontation that has allowed all to proceed.

For some time now it has been evident that this break-off was inevitable as some have become quite capable T/Rs, as well as learning healing techniques and other skills. The Saturday morning meetings have been a good training ground for such development and the time is ripe for this new formation as a number of you are clearly realizing. There are many possibilities here, Marshall, and your collective thoughts and ideas will need to be discussed and decisions made as to your individual and collective needs and desires. The idea of a get-together dinner and conference between those present will be all that is necessary to begin the process. All individuals involved are evolved enough to deal effectively with a compromise agreed upon by all. 

Know that many unseen personalities, including myself and those teachers working with all mortals present, will be anxiously anticipating this get-together. At this time you can be assured that all present will have constructive input and be eager to arrive at an initial format that will provide a flexible foundation on which to construct higher truth and evolving realities.

Be considering what you truly desire, my friend, as you encourage all others to do the same. Your Thought Adjusters will let each know what it is that you need and desire. This will lead to very interesting times ahead, Marshall. Again, well done in instigating what you are each beginning to visualize. Carry on and call on me when you choose. Until later.

END 




Hope this helps to clarify....

Warren C. Smith II (aka Marshall)



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Thea Hardy 
  To: tmtranscripts at circuit1.teamcircuits.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 3:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [tmtranscripts] SLC UT group -- is not affiliated w/Woods Cross UT group.


  Hi Calvin,


  However much I may agree with you, I need to point out that only your first sentence is in accord with tmtranscript guidelines. We do not discuss these issues other than clarifications on this list. Anyone interested in a continutation of this discussion can go to tmtalk and post questions to you.


  Thanks for willing to follow list guidelines - tmtranscripts is not an entirely descriptive list name from the perspective of some of us, but has become a clearinghouse for multiple resources.


  Love,

  Thea


     "SLC Utah group" is not the same group, nor associated with the "Woods Cross group" which present the on-going Abraham/Mary/ Emulan weekly lessons.

    ...lest there be confusion.

    Again, in my experience and opinion, a lot of unreality has usurped this Mission list--in the name of this 'Teaching Mission.' Right or wrong, it is apparently hard for me to stay silent about it. Neither will I seek favorable opinions from any here on this list by offering supportive complements. To me, it is an appalling set-back to the Mission's realness, yet I am aware that Father's hand is in all things and surely these things are in his control, not mine, or ours.

    The question is: do we have a responsibility to this missions wellness? Do we have some obligation to what is printed, conferenced, or hailed on these 'mission lists?' I say yes, we do. Should we have up-front in-the-open discussion about these things? Why not? We have been taught to have a questioning and learning mind, not an "accept anything" mind, and that no truth is without honest examination.

    There is a vast gulf of difference in realness, practicality and truth between the Mission lessons I have been involved in these past many years since 1991, and the current wave of some, such as this below, which sound the horn  "monjoronsion is on the planet" ... with the toots of "and you special higher-evolved than your fellows ones, will be my chosen/ staff."

    Once again here ... I don't judge the TR or their motives, but I can and should judge the message and comment on it's impact. I understand--having gone through these same excitements myself in earlier mission-years ... but it didn't make it truth then because we were zealous about the hype of that time, and it doesn't make it truth now.

    I'll say it again and again ... there is danger in the psyche of mind and in spiritual soundness when an individual seeks to TR and leaves the safeguard of the group buffer, and starts an individual campaign. Sooner or later comes feelings and expressions of superiority, predictions and warnings, and then if lessons of hummiliation do not reach the psyche, sooner or later comes the punch.

    I am aware this comment will draw the darts from the usuals, but I really don't worry any more about that. I am concerned of the wellness and the realness our Mission and how it is being presented to the masses.

    I don't have my shorts tied in a knot over it, nor am I feeling engaged to go on the war path here, but I will speak up from time to time, as I do, and otherwise be about my daily living and learning.

    If anyone feels so inclined please post this on tml. Perhaps I need to just subscribe again there myself. The bummer here is, these types transmissions do come out on tmtranscript where some are only subscribed there, and it is not a forum for discussion. I don't think truthseekers will ultimately be hoodwinked, but it does bring about a sidetrack and a confusion as to just what is "The Teaching Mission."

    Waren, I don't want to engage in any unbrotherly tit for tat here. We can speak our feelings responsibly without opening a can of cancerous worms agian. That is what I hope as this is not a Warren/Calvin thing ... it would be the same no matter whoever, as I've expressed in other instances such as recent.


    Calvin


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Warren Smith <warrensmith at xmission.com>
    To: tmtranscripts at circuit1.teamcircuits.com
    Sent: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:24:10 -0700
    Subject: [tmtranscripts] SLC Utah Teaching Mission Group Meeting #38 12/11/05

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    SLC Utah Teaching Mission Group Meeting #38
    At Marshall?s and Ryan?s Home
    12/11/05

    Teacher(s):

    Julianna: T/R Marshall
    Tonsah: T/R Ryan
    Monjoronson: Marshall


    Julianna: Good evening , my brothers and new friends. A wonderful occasion it is to sit and listen to you discuss those issues which are close to your heart as you express your intentions and desires in this most beautiful setting this evening. I am Julianna and am thrilled to be in your company. Know that there are many (unseens) gathered around tonight in the audience who enthusiastically sit by in anticipation of new awareness descending upon each of you.

    I came into contact with Marshall just a couple of nights ago, as he allowed me to impart to him the assistance he was desirous of in a new poem that he willed to comprise. I encourage each of you to better get to know me, for I have many thrilling lessons to bring to each of you.

    As an unrevealed personality of the same order as Serena, I will be working with a number of individuals on Urantia who care to open their hearts and minds to the great new miracles that are showering upon this cherished planet. The planet is astir with great activity, with new personalities arriving daily. These times are truly magnificent times, my new friends, and you will find that during such times as these, great new gifts can be embraced if you only reach within, and with willful desire, ask for new awareness to descend upon you.

    As you go about your daily stillness meditation, reach deep within into whole new levels, allowing Mother Spirit to guide you closer and closer to the indwelling Father Fragment within each of you, who so desires that you increasingly implement new techniques and methods of approach that will bring you more and more attuned and aligned with Him.

    Each of you are receiving great lessons as you are rehearsed during your time of sleep. During these times, much is being imparted that you may not even be remotely conscious of , but I assure you, my dear brothers, that you only need willfully desire to receive the attunements and adjustments that occur during these times of sleep in the superconscious mind, and you shall receive this great training that will prepare you for the times which are soon to be upon us.

    During your times of stillness, as you consciously allow yourself to reach into that citadel within your mind, and with willful desire receive all that your Father Fragments are desirious of conveying, you allow yourselves to be re-vitalized, energized and charged with new awareness and God-consciousness. It is during these times of stillness that you allow yourself to open up to receive the greatest benefits, thus preparing you to become most effective in these exciting times just down the road and around the bend, where you will find yourselves accepting new tasks and assignments that will further prepare you for the great missions you each have upon this rapidly changing planet.

    Dear brothers, open your hearts and minds, and realize that by willfully desiring to release those limitations that act as impediments to higher soul and mindal development, you make possible the opening of new doors, which will bring you to whole new levels of operation that are beyond your wildest dreams and imagination..

    I am very pleased to introduce myself and address the two of you tonight. I reiterate, I am here for you and I am most thrilled to be in your company this evening and truly look forward to becoming great new friends with each of you, as I work with you closely on new lessons and teachings that you are becoming ready for. I will take my leave and allow another to speak. Until later, my new friends and brothers.

    Tonsah: Hello and good evening, my friends. This is Tonsah. I am glad to be here for this very productive meeting. With all that is going on, and with the circuitry you are allowing youselves to become connected to, this is a very critical time for change, as make the highest decisions, doing what you truly feel is right. As I watch carefully over the two of you and observe the great abilities and talents that you both possess, I am very  proud of you, especially considering what you two have gone through.

    During these times of blending with your morontia minds, you will come across great challenges which will test your skills of readiness for this Mission. What you two have is nothing that anybody else has. All are unique, and in certain ways all will contribute in their different styles. As you walk with faith, be encouraged that you are carefully watched over, cared for and loved very much.

    You each have confidence and are definitely open for so many things that others are not. As you are readied, you will each become pioneers in what is about to occur upon this world. There is no specific timeframe, but when the time is right, it will occur. As you get into stillness, try to tap into deeper levels that will bring your awareness levels up and leave you open for the new gifts that you will be given.

    In time, you will know what change is and how you can make everything so much better or worse, depending on your decisions. You must first get grounded and become stabilized, and not try to do too much at once. You have both gone through some hard times and it is now time to come back and rise above it. You will have great opportunities and will be given so much in spirit that should help you in everything. I believe that you two have what it takes, and I know for sure that when you are ready you will be able to take on the challenges you face. Whenever you feel that you are having problems, bring them into your time with spirit, taking them deep within to your indwelling Father. Ask Him to reveal why you are having such a hard time, or ask Him for help and be open to accept it. The answers will always come to you, but you must be open to accept them. It is very important to give eve! rything over to Him.

    It is time to act and move into the light and allow great new changes to occur. I know that you are ready, but you must also know that you are ready. I love you both, very much, and am open to talk with you at any time. Give over all that you have deep within you, and ask for help in uncovering all your feelings for what they really are. Be patient and know that all will come. Don?t wait for it, but be ready for it. The time is whenever you choose. It is when you are ready.

    Again, contact me whenever you choose, as I am always here for you, along with many others. Our group builds in unseens. When you have the need, there are many wanting to talk with you, and in time you will be able to meet these personalities, and will learn very much, for they have a lot to offer you and are very excited in working with you. Go throughout the day and know you are watched over and cared for. Be at peace within your minds and souls. Do not fear, for there is nothing to fear. I take my leave.

    Monjoronson: Good evening, my dear sons. It has been a joy to behold each of you this evening and observe your true inner desires to become all you can become. This is Monjoronson , and I assure you that each of you are becoming prepared and groomed to serve as mighty mortals upon my staff.

    I am here (on Urantia) and in the process of materializing, and look forward to your renewed commitment to serve as my apostles, representing my presence to your brothers and sisters in the flesh. I touch your hearts with my peace and mercy, and assure you that as you walk hand in hand with Mother Spirit and Michael (Jesus), you will be increasingly led to new levels of operation that will allow you to be great channels for our Paradise Father?s love.

    My sons, it is an honor to be in your presence tonight, and I encourage you to call upon me. Know that great changes are taking place within each of you. My peace goes with you. Good evening.


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