[tmtranscripts] NET #14, Mar. 13, 2017
Roxanne Andrews
urantian606 at gmail.com
Sun Mar 19 23:14:19 PDT 2017
PR
*New Era Transition #14 – Clinic for Sustainable Families – Mar. 13, 2017*
*Machiventa Melchizedek*, Planetary Manager and Planetary Prince of Urantia
Topics:
The co-creative relationship
New concept of family clinics for social sustainability
Research to find wisdom of the best family practices
The family clinic concept is a prototype
Research from the social sciences
Research from indigenous sources
Funding clinics is not a concern at this time
Creating a global culture change
The concept of “clinics”
Concept begins with changing families
The clinics must precede the arrival of the Avonal Son
There are no quick fixes for problems of Urantia
The continuance of clinics after Monjoronson’s arrival
Dealing with prejudice and bias
Opinions from readers
The idea of Melchizedek Schools would not serve a wide public need
How can mortals assist with this new concept?
Machiventa’s closing remarks
TR: Daniel Raphael, PhD
Team members present: Roxanne Andrews, Craig Carmichael, Liz Cratty,
Michael Lanier and Michael McCray
Invocation:
*March 13, 2017*
*The co-creative relationship*
*MACHIVENTA:* Good morning, this is Machiventa Melchizedek, your Planetary
Prince and Planetary Manager. We have an interest as well as you do in the
co-creative process and we find it as interesting to us as perhaps it is to
you. We, however, have the “play book” in hand and know how developments
should go, though oftentimes they do not go the way that we would predict
or we would prefer, due to mortal change of mind and change of direction
and decisions. Nonetheless, we are learning a great deal about this
co-creative relationship that we have with you individually, with you as
groups and with you as nations and civilization. Our purview/overview of
the world is that our presence here is very timely and Christ Michael and
the Triumvirate have dedicated themselves to the healing of this world.
You might call it a renewal, a recovery, but in this recovery the patient
helps us as much as we help the patient.
We find that our progress is greater when people have a consciousness of
our co-creative participation with them. They have a greater hope of what
will development evolve. They know that there is a superior intelligence
involved in this process, but what “most people”—what I say by “most
people” includes all God believers, whether they are Christians, Hindus or
people of Islam—it will be most helpful when there is a broader audience
who wishes to co-creatively participate in the healing of your world with
us, even if they do not know what will occur. The hope that they have
helps to flesh out the consciousness of completion and fulfillment. Hope
is that aspiration for what might become, and so it is part of our
reasoning and part of the Correcting Time to make it known to the world
that there is spiritual help in great abundance for the correction and
healing of this world’s many problems.
Primary to that is that we will not fix old problems, but create processes
and social systems that will bring about the healing of your world in new
ways that complement our work along the way. An aspect that we have not
discussed before is that there will become a greater knowing of individuals
throughout the world that spirit is among you, and that we are here with
*you* and that our presence here is co-creative to help you and us heal
your world of its many problems. How that occurs is probably a question
that you have in your mind. Just continue with the hope that this will be
fulfilled, and that you will see it in your lifetime, at least the
beginning tendrils of this development. We have begun growing those
tendrils in all organizations throughout the world. Many people feel and
know and sense that there is something afoot in the world that is unlike
what has been here historically, and that there is the potential of great
good, though media continues to sell the bad news that sells newspapers and
media time.
*New concept of family clinics for social sustainability*
I would like to discuss a conceptual development that occurred while this
one was away in Colombia, South America, and that is the development of
local community clinics for social sustainability. You might call this a
“Clinic for Sustainable Families.” This conceptual development is the
delivery level for working with communities in countries and areas and
societies that have an affinity towards God and an openness to spiritual
unfoldment. This work will be primarily to teach families how to raise
children in a socially sustainable environment with socially sustainable
guidelines for parenting, from pre-conception through conception,
pregnancy, newborn, first month and so on, to age 20. There will be
classes available to families to understand the best way to raise children
to become happy and content and at peace and curious in their life. This
will not be a religiously oriented operation, but simply the
acknowledgement that spirit is present in their midst, and that there is
much good to be had.
*Research to find wisdom of the best family practices*
The teaching and training programs will involve two research programs
before hand; the one research program will be the search of all social
sciences’ research projects and studies throughout the world that have to
do with the best practices of child rearing during the era I just
mentioned. There have been hundreds of thousands of those studies, and it
will be our work, your work with us, to glean that data to find those
pieces of wisdom that are in agreement with the 7 values of social
sustainability. The other research project, which you will find far more
interesting and much more enjoyable, is the research of indigenous wisdom
on raising children to that age 20, or separation from the family of
origin, that brings about the development of happy, content, peaceful and
curious individuals, who are also socially responsible in their family,
community and society. There are several ways to approach this, but we
will not discuss this at the present; it is quite easy to envision how this
might be conducted to find those bits of wisdom from indigenous
populations, whether it involves the tribal communities of the Amazon or in
Manhattan.
We know from our own experience that the wisdom is there to raise children
to fulfill these parameters to later create generations of happy,
contented, and curious individuals and families. The goal of these clinics
and of this research is to create a multigenerational process that
continues on generation after generation teaching families to know how to
raise children to become contented, happy and responsible. What is missing
from contemporary societies, as you know, is the corrosive effect of
societal, economic, and political trends that tend to dilute the indigenous
wisdom of child-rearing through generations. Many generations of Americans
have now come to the point where they do not really know how to raise
children to become socially responsible and how to heal themselves as
individuals and as families. Because the family is the foundation upon
which all societies and civilizations are based, it is necessary to begin
with the family at the community level. These clinics will not be
temporary; they will not address one generation, but they will be there to
reinforce the child-rearing practices from one generation to another until
the Days of Light and Life occur. What we intend to do then is create a
global system of local family clinics of social sustainability to fulfill
the necessary healing at the family level for global peace. If you enjoy
the prospect of peace then you will surely want to engage this process.
[*Daniel:* About a week before we left to go to Colombia, “the Guys” said
that they would reveal two concepts which would complete the system of
concepts of social sustainability, and I wondered what that was.
Eventually, it was revealed to me that we had never really talked about a
delivery system for these values and for right living conditions, and
things like that. So anyhow, it has to do with this clinic. I know that I
have probably bounced around that concept before, but they wanted it nailed
down and really put in place as something that would work, both for
families and communities; and of course, families and communities are the
beginning of larger societies and civilization. So anyhow, after 9 pages
of notes, I have begun working on that article a couple of days ago,
shortly after we returned. I will publish that, probably sometime in the
next week, hopefully, at least in rough form.]
*MACHIVENTA:* Let us continue, please. Having said that, having given you
a broader and much more specific appreciation for our work with you
locally, we open the forum to your questions, if you have any.
*Craig:* This clinic is open in Colorado
*The family clinic concept is a prototype*
*MACHIVENTA:* No, they do not exist thus far. This is a proposal. What
we are looking for is to open a prototype, a trial project of a community
project for us to work on. We must begin with one clinic and the research
to support the programs before we develop them into more. We will most
likely open our first clinic in Colombia, simply because of the strong
family structures that are there and the strong feminine influence in
family dynamics, and the father figures that are strong and traditional.
It is not that this could not begin in the United States, but we wish to
open the first clinic in the best situation possible to reach success early
on.
Let me preface that comment with a continuation of the discussion of the
social science research and indigenous research into the wisdoms and best
practices for child-rearing, and that is that the research must begin to
develop a wisdom base, and then teaching materials and training programs
and curriculums must also develop from there. These clinics will not be
oriented towards physical health, but much more oriented towards social
health and social/psychological health, particularly for the individual and
the family.
*Research from the social sciences*
We know that there is a great abundance of wisdom, both from social
sciences and from indigenous sources in the cultures around the world to
flesh this out very quickly. The clinic is the point of delivery; it is
much more like a large franchise operation, and that we wish to open our
first “store” to deliver these services to those who wish to raise happy
children, or to amend their current child-rearing practices to raise their
children more effectively. Yes, this will take a bit of time, but if you
see this as an ongoing process that will last for centuries, then you will
realize how important it is to have these first steps done well.
*Research from indigenous sources*
The indigenous wisdom occurs with two important facets: the first is that
the indigenous wisdom of child-rearing is proven over time, and will be
validated by the criteria of the 7 values of social sustainability; and
second, oftentimes, this wisdom is culturally specific. It means that if
you are a Lapland native, and you raise reindeer, you have a particular way
of raising healthy whole children that is akin to your culture, and so
these cultural aspects will provide an overlay, a coloring of socially
sustainable child-rearing practices. This will make it relevant to the
individuals in that language. We, for instance, will be looking at the
various cultures within the Spanish language base around the world, as this
program will begin with four fundamental languages—English, Spanish, French
and Portuguese. It is our hope that we will eventually have clinics
throughout North and South America. As you know well from your language
map of the world, English is pervasive in Japan, Korea, India and many
other nations that have a native language which is different. So these
will be clinics that will open in those places as well. When you include
the French, then you know that you can travel to Ghana, Africa, and also
speak French there and you would be understood; the same in Morocco, and so
on around the world. There are many places that Portuguese is spoken,
which is a carryover from the Portuguese discovery process in centuries
past. Through these four language bases, we could establish clinics around
the world rather quickly, and by “quickly” I mean within 10 years.
*Funding clinics is not a concern at this time*
Do not concern yourself about funding these clinics; this is a conceptual
time of thinking in development so that these clinics will become whole and
systemic to the local community. We anticipate that just as there are many
people who are interested in peace, as many people or more will be
interested and volunteer to work, teach, and train in these clinics without
pay or with minor compensation. Yes, eventually something will need to be
done to maintain the financial base of this operation, but that is in the
future. Our primary function now will be first of all to gather the wisdom
from social science sources and from indigenous sources while we design the
clinic and the practices that will occur there.
*Craig:* That sounds like an amazingly effective way to start changes.
*Creating a global culture change*
*MACHIVENTA:* Yes, it is. It is our intention to create a global culture
change, a change that will cross all borders and cross all ethnic and
cultural and racial groups to create a oneness that has not existed before,
based on the values that have sustained all of humanity for so many
thousands of years. If peace is ever to become a reality in your world
then there must be a coincidence of like-mindedness and of values and of a
vision for the future. This will be a proactive effort around the world
and disregard the limitations of existing cultures, mindsets and of
bureaucracy
*Roxie:* The use of the term “clinic”—is it different in South America
than that term in English, because we think of clinics more in terms of
medical health and dealing with people on a one-to-one basis. I would
think it would be more economical to use something like a class structure
where many people get the information at the same time.
*The concept of “clinics”*
*MACHIVENTA:* You borrow the word “clinic” from the tradition of healing
centers, whether it is a nutrition clinic, a health clinic, mental health
clinic, or a woodworking clinic for woodworkers who want to know how to
repair furniture more effectively. There are clinics for diesel mechanics
and clinics for accountants and bookkeepers. There are clinics for
information technologies and clinics for other things as well. We use this
broadly as a means of service delivery on a one-to-one basis and a
one-to-family basis and a one-to-group basis. There will be classes and
different teaching media for various groups of individuals within the time
span from pre-conception to age 20. We are not so much concerned about
semantics, but we wish to keep the word “clinic” in mind as it has a
connotation of healing and of service delivery.
*Roxie:* Thank you, Machiventa.
*ML:* It’s a bit overwhelming of what lies ahead.
*Concept begins with changing families*
*MACHIVENTA:* Yes, imagine our program as Starbucks, Dunkin’ Donuts,
McDonald’s and of KFC all over the world. Whether you travel to Hong Kong,
Singapore, Cincinnati, Houston or Buenos Aires you will find all of those
outlets there. It is a prodigious project as you might imagine, yet it is
based on some of the simplest principles available that are common to all
people. We feel it is timely, needed and desired by many people around the
world to know what works finally that is based on the universal nature of
humans throughout the world for all time. We are grateful that you
appreciate the depth and breadth of the project that we are undertaking
with you. You eventually will become the teachers and professors, so to
speak, and the managers of these clinics to help your world immediately
where you are. You have seen that peace is impossible by the heads of
state meeting together to make these ambiguous agreements, which are
eventually overturned or set aside by those who do not wish to comply or to
work with them. Yet, because the civilization is based on the family, this
is where we begin and we will change those heads of state as those
individuals come from families who are raised with this tradition and its
culture of familial social sustainability.
*The clinics must precede the arrival of the Avonal Son*
*Liz:* This is very exciting news! Does this coincide with the arrival of
an Avonal Son, or will the establishment of these clinics usher in his
arrival?
*MACHIVENTA:* The clinics must precede his arrival, as the Triumvirate has
determined the effort. If you look at the strategic plan of Planetary
Management and the arrival of the Avonal Son, it is important that mortals
on your planet, Urantia, appreciate the struggle that they are in and the
reality that spirit is present in guiding your co-creative efforts. We
wish to change the culture of the world from the totally secular and from
the religious to the spiritual where people begin to recognize that they
have a responsibility to their ascendant journey and to that of their
children, and to live responsibly wherever they are in the world. This is
an important step that will precede the arrival of the Avonal Son, though
you can be sure that the Avonal Son is in concert with myself and Christ
Michael on the development of our co-creative efforts here.
*There are no quick fixes for problems of Urantia*
It is important that the population of Urantia not see his approach as
miraculous and that there will be total healing when he arrives. You know
what would happen after that, when the reality of his presence struck them
broadly across the face. The reality is that the healing must be
co-creative, that there is not going to be any quick fix for the ills and
travesties and tragedies of Urantia. The acceptance of responsibility, of
that relationship is primary to his arrival. But you know, as well as I
do, that if he arrived and people expected that he would heal the world,
and he didn’t, that there would be great disappointment and there would
surely be a backlash, an emotional, personal backlash by individuals and
cultures and whole societies against his presence. They would be grossly
and tragically disappointed in his arrival and this would be highly
detrimental to the effectiveness of his work. We are building the success
of his approach and arrival little by little so that when he does arrive,
people will be anticipating his arrival and will understand how his arrival
will augment and assist them and give them greater hope with the knowledge
of his presence.
*The continuance of clinics after Monjoronson’s arrival*
*Liz:* Thank you, and the only question that I had prepared for you,
dovetails with what we spoke about last time, which is if he were a guest
in my home and there was a neighbor where the parents fought all the time,
which was damaging the children, and I escorted him over there and he
helped them heal their relationship. And then they were left to their own
devices, would they revert back to their old behavior? And my question
was: Would I be naïve to believe that by the time he has here been long
enough in my neighborhood, in my community and my town to visit neighbors
personally, there would be such a chorus in town and on the Internet and on
social media that they would know where to go. But what you are telling us
today is that these outlets will be in-place so that he will be anticipated.
*MACHIVENTA:* Exactly right. You have grasped the development perfectly.
If he were to arrive and help a family heal their relationship problems,
and then left them to their own devices to learn how to live sustainably in
a family, then they would need someplace to go to learn these practices
that would help the family continue the healing that they received. These
clinics are the next step, the next footfall, so to speak, that will be
needed beforehand and after his arrival.
*Liz:* Has an Avonal Son come to other planets that have been sequestered
by rebellion?
*MACHIVENTA:* We decline to answer that at this time.
*Dealing with prejudice and bias*
*Liz:* The only other question that I have is, I struggle with
people—particularly with people in my own family—who show signs of
prejudice and racism, and then in this particular political climate in the
United States, this is something that hurts my heart, and I have been
experimenting with kind of a phrase that has not been well received, and my
question to them is: “Do you believe that it is an accident of your birth
that you were born American, middle class and privileged? And if that is
the case, then don’t you think you have an opportunity, an obligation to
assist those who by virtue of the accident of their birth where born under
far lesser circumstances? And if you don’t believe it was an accident of
your birth, that it was designed that you be born American, middle class
and privileged, then don’t you think that you have an even greater
obligation to help those who were not so fortunate by design?” And every
time I have tested that concept out with people, it has been very poorly
received, so clearly, my communications in this manner is faulty. I am
wondering if you could help me with that.
*MACHIVENTA:* Quite to the contrary. Your teaching methods are highly
effective and among my team here, and myself, are praising you for your
approach. What you have done is ask a question of the assumptions of the
individuals who hold this prejudice and bias. You have asked them to
challenge their own thinking in a short order fashion. The way of
protecting themselves is through denying or stuttering. It is unfortunate
that many of your society have not been taught to think effectively,
rationally or logically, and so you have stepped into the open forum of
wisdom, approaching ignorance and prejudice in a way that confronts the
individual. They are unprepared to give an answer because they have never
questioned their own beliefs; they have *assumed* that they are correct and
that they are comfortable with that, even though they may know that they
are prejudiced and biased. When you ask them about that, whether they
understand that they are prejudiced and biased, they would probably answer
in the affirmative of yes they are and they want to stay that way; thank
you very much! Had we an application for a teaching position of a clinic,
we would promptly hand it to you right now.
*Liz:* Thank you for that comment. I’m giving this a lot of thought
because I would like to be more effective in this matter, because of this
pervasive racism in our country is very, very disturbing to me, so I will
continue to hone my skills.
*Craig:* They aren’t thinking logically to start with, with arguments
like that.
*MACHIVENTA:* Do you have other questions which may be outside of this
genre?
*Opinions from readers*
*Roxie:* I have two that were sent in by our readers. The first one is:
“Following along the last two sessions, NET #12 and 13: As you know I have
been a diligent student of this material over the years and have attempted
to make a contribution to the development of the curriculum which will be
needed to promote it to a wider audience.
I have also applied myself locally (Cae Tan 2016 - You-Tube) in an effort
to assist this community of souls to become more stable and sustainable.
Both exercises have been of benefit to me personally and have enabled and
empowered my own life.
“This is proceeding without the need to refer to Celestial over-control.
I have concluded that only by embodying the 7 core values fully into our
own lives, as individuals, will we be able to effectively influence others,
without the need to "convert" anyone. It is necessary to set an example
that others may follow, if they so choose. All attempts to convince
through words and writings have, seemingly, fallen on deaf ears.
My question is this:- Would it not be more prudent, in the light of the
abysmal response of humans, to delay the physical appearance of the
Magisterial Son until after the geo-physical cataclysms, pandemics, and
the resulting social, political and economic upheavals have run their
course, and that some semblance of stability and sanity have been restored?
What would be the wisdom of subjecting the Avonal Son to such peril and
uncertainty? Those that remain might be more inclined to pay some heed to
His words and guidance.”
Roxie: You have kind of covered a lot of it in your statements so far
today, but do you have any further comments?
*MACHIVENTA:* Yes. We have also considered the situation you describe.
We have opted to present the Avonal Son to the world before and/or during
these cataclysmic changes. It is important that those who remain have hope
and a plan for recovery that would be of assistance to them and to us
afterward. Thus we see more benefit from his approach beforehand than
after. It would be a situation where the population would think, “Well,
where were you when we were in our time of need? Now you have come to us
after we are safe and you present us with a plan for reconstructing our
civilization, our societies now.” So, in the strategic plans of the
Triumvirate it is our plan to have the Avonal Son arrive sometime before
the onset of the cataclysms, though you are experiencing some of them now.
If you have further questions regarding this, you are most welcome to ask.
*Roxie:* The next one is kind of along these lines as well:
“Please submit this statement: The one thing this planet needs NOW, even
before, during, and after an Avonal Son makes his appearance, are these
Melchizedek Universities, to Teach the Truth of What Is So. How can we
receive an Avonal Son when we don't know who we are!
“Until we do something about the "spiritual ignorance" on this planet, an
Avonal Son's incarnation on this planet will not be recognized nor
appreciated.
“The Healing must start with Spiritual Education and the only way to do
that is to build a Melchizedek University as the churches of this world
have closed their doors and minds to new Revelatory Information.
“This planet NEEDS these Melchizedek Universities NOW! Spiritual Education
is where the healing begins and the expectation of an Avonal Son is
created.”
He didn’t really ask a question; he was stating his opinion.
*The idea of Melchizedek Schools would not serve a wide public need*
*MACHIVENTA:* I will respond, nonetheless: It is true that the arrival of
Melchizedek Schools would be highly beneficial to your world, yet it is one
that appeals to only a very few of your population. Your assumption is
that people would see the Melchizedek School and come to it and learn the
realities of the greater universe and develop a personal plan of ascension
and spiritual progress with the Melchizedeks; this is one approach.
However, if you look around you and you see even within your own community
of the *Urantia Book*, Teaching Mission and Magisterial Mission, and other
spiritual interests around the world, you will see that this is a
fragmented and disillusioned group with very few people who are steadfast
24/7 for the rest of their life.
We will appeal to the larger thinking of individuals through the tragedies
and travesties that are upon you in this world. Your physical wellbeing is
immediate and when that is threatened then you seek other means to save
yourself, if not your body and that of your children. Your statement is
one that carries a great deal of truth, but for worlds that are much more
evolved than this one. The plans that we have for this world are much more
elementary than those planets which would receive a Melchizedek School. We
thank you for your comments and open mindedness.
*ML:* I find myself simply reeling in the size and scope of this and I’m
going to have to let it percolate.
*MACHIVENTA:* Definitely.
*How can mortals assist with this new concept?*
*Liz:* Is there anything we can do—those of us on this call or who read
these transcripts—to help in the formation or the assistance of these
clinics to bring them about?
*MACHIVENTA:* Yes, there is; just simply holding this in your
consciousness and thinking about it will help us greatly as we tune in to
your thinking and access the developments of your thoughts. We will, at
times, give you an insight about what you are working on. You, Liz, are
working with the universities and this is one aspect of the teaching
program that we will be approaching in the future. The clinics are at the
local level and as you may have intuited from my comments about the
training program, classes, and curriculum, you may eventually have gathered
that this training would go from diaper daycare to post-graduate levels.
The thinking and the concepts, of social sustainability will eventually
become its own genre that will be global and academic-wide. Your thinking
about clinics and teaching techniques and curriculum, and so on, would be
vital to our assistance. As we progress more closely to the stage of
implementation, of boots on the ground, we will be in contact with you to
accept your assistance.
*Machiventa’s closing remarks*
If there are no more questions, I will give our closing.
We thank you for your presence here today, for your attending to this
project which we have opened to you today. This brings our work much
closer to you in your community, to your family and to you personally. It
is an effort that we know will be well accepted around the world, as so
many people are in despair about how to raise children into happiness and
so on. Even those parents who have children who are pre-adolescent realize
that the difficulties that they are having with their children will not
cease but continue, and that when these children grow into their adulthood,
they will have children of their own and that they then as grandparents
will become co-responsible for the care of these children. This is in many
ways a reflection, a recall of tradition extended family dynamics, yet
without the wisdom of how to grandparent wisely. With the use of clinics,
you will have the wisdom base to assist you as a grandparent to help raise
your grandchildren and your children to be much more effective individuals
as ascended beings and as citizens. Spiritual and social responsibility go
hand-in-hand as you will see eventually through the progress of our work.
Thank you for your attention and your presence here. Good day.
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