[tmtranscripts] NET #21, Aug. 13, 2017
Roxanne Andrews
urantian606 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 21 18:25:59 PDT 2017
PR
*New Era Transition #21 - Melchizedek Schools; Ongoing Revelation – Aug.
14, 2017*
*Machiventa Melchizedek,* Planetary Manager and Planetary Prince
Topics:
Peaceful positions
Assessing your minds and options
Racial equality
What is missing is a Melchizedek School of Planetary Management
Is the United Nations viable as an organization?
Problems with the expansion of society
The smallest effective size of an organization
How to ask for assistance with a project
Melchizedek Schools for Leadership
Would “Planetary management” be more acceptable than “social
sustainability?”
Ongoing revelation
Revelatory Commission
Authentic, good, effective questions
TR: Daniel Raphael, PhD
https://sites.google.com/view/danielraphael
Team members: Roxanne Andrews, Craig Carmichael, Liz Cratty, Doug Dodge,
Michael McCray
Invocation
*August 14, 2017*
*Peaceful positions*
*MACHIVENTA:* Good morning, this is Machiventa Melchizedek and welcome to
another day. As you can see from the developments and events around your
world, that there seems to be no shortage of crises that need resolution,
particularly from a peaceful position. The antagonisms of old enemies and
those who are new have brought your world to another brink of difficulty.
I would not say the brink of destruction but a brink of another
difficulty. Your world is quite an interesting and unusual planet to
observe and to manage. I use the term “manage” quite loosely today as we
are in the early stages of corralling or bringing together the forces of
good that can work for the best long term results of healing of our
planet—your planet and our planet. We know that there are many people who
are interested in the good of the world, and yet it is those very few
people who are in control who seem to be using the world as their chess
board for their personal movement of power, authority, and control.
The average individual who lives in those communities whether it is
Vladivostok or whether it is in Baltimore or in Tokyo or elsewhere wishes
for peace and wishes that their leaders would bring about peace. Rarely do
individuals at the local level understand why there seems to be a necessity
by those in power to vie for control and to be in opposition to others. We
are seeing egoism at the planetary level being played out as though they
were neighbors throwing rocks at each other across their fences, whereas in
fact the fences do not exist in your world and the rocks have become
missiles.
*Assessing your minds and options*
We are in great appreciation thankfulness that you are here today attending
this session with us. You are in many ways on the planning commission for
the healing of your world. We use your minds, your thoughts and your times
in meditation to be with you in intimate contact to assess your life, your
world, and the options that you think that you would like to exercise to
assist us. Planetary management will eventually be seen as a personal
endeavor, and that everyone is responsible for their contributions to your
world and to how the world can assist the individual. This may seem like
some aloof, distant, idealism but in fact today this week, this month,
these years we are intimately involved with the daily practices of
planetary management and how to bring about the good of the world. The
plan for inhabited planets is for the good of all concerned—for the benefit
of the universe to have as many individuals grow into the fullness of their
soul and to make contributions to themselves, their world and to the
universe.
If there are questions, I am open to receive them now.
*Racial equality*
*Roxie:* It seems that our country was making progress in our race
relations for equality during the Obama years, but now I sense a definite
slipping backwards. How do you see it from your greater perspectives?
*MACHIVENTA:* We have really no comment that would be political in
nature. What you are seeing is the reserved prejudice and bigotry that has
now seen a permissive environment to release their hostility.
*What is missing is a Melchizedek School of Planetary Management*
*Craig:* It has always struck me as odd that we seem to get these leaders
or rulers that seem to want to involve us in more trouble than there is any
necessity for and that they be one of the challenges to keep those people
out of power and somehow get the people who are more interested in peace,
in the environment and good working relations into power. Is that an
observation and how might we go about that?
*MACHIVENTA:* I can deal with your statement, thank you. What is missing
is a Melchizedek School of Planetary Management. This would include the
process of leader selection. It would become an adjunct to your political
process. It is important that leaders begin to take on a much larger
perspective of their place on the planet. The problem of the sovereignty
of nations will not be resolved quickly; it will not be resolved soon.
Yet, there is a way of dealing with sovereignty that is outside the
boundaries of each nation, and that would be to have a school that teaches
Planetary Management, as I mentioned, but one that would see sovereignty as
much the same way as you see the 50 states of the United States, [and] that
the world would eventually become a Federal Democratic Republic, that each
nation would have its own sovereignty, but there would be a
co-responsibility between and among the states or nations for the
management of the planet.
What is required to support that is a larger-than-life perspective of
leadership, one that leads nations and citizens into a sense of oneness
with others. What has been missing with the European Union is a sense of
otherness that is “us.” When you see “us” as others and others as “us,”
then you realize that we are the totality of all people, that there is then
less of a division of “us” and “them.” “We” becomes the “we are all in
this together,” and that “we are responsible for the peace of the world.”
Peace within our own sovereign boundaries and peace within the world. The
perspective must be broadened beyond the boundaries and this must be taught
in the new public schools of all nations, that there is a responsibility to
the higher good of the world by being cooperative. Individuals and nations
can surely have their unique identity and their own cultures and so on, but
this must give way to a peaceful world by accepting others as you accept
yourself.
*Is the United Nations viable as an organization?*
*MMc:* Are you able to see this through our present organizations, the
United Nations, or is there going to have to be a new organization that
comes into the school—to promote the school?
*MACHIVENTA:* This is not about organizations; this is about a change of
attitude, a change of appreciation. These changes can be made within
existing organizations; organizations tend to see themselves as isolated
and unique and alone, and that even within the United Nations, there is a
separateness that is inappropriate for an organization that represents the
amalgamation, the confederation of all nations. This can be done within
existing organizations. What is required is that leaders begin to lead
those organizations into a much broader, global perspective of their
position in the universe and they then become teaching organizations.
Right now, the United Nations and many other similar organizations are
governing and mediating organizations to try to bring about peace. Yet, as
we have said repeatedly, peace begins in the home; peace begins as a
teaching, instructional module within the family and within the community
and within public schools. It is not about indoctrinations; it is not
about mind control and so on. Those statements are made by those who are
defensive and wish to be in opposition to a broadmindedness that includes
others as you include yourself.
*MMc:* You said that what’s needed is in a school of planetary
management. Will we see such a school instituted before Monjoronson is on
the planet, or after?
*MACHIVENTA:* Your question really obfuscates the problem between two
different topics, and I will respectfully not answer right now.
*Problems with the expansion of society*
*Liz:* I have a couple of questions from my friend, Jeff Cutler. His
first question regards the book, *Breakdown of Nations *by Leopold Kohr.
He says the author postulates that when a society expands beyond a certain
size, that its problems increase geometrically while the human ability to
cope with those problems grows only arithmetically. If this is true,
should the social sustainability model take this phenomenon into
consideration?
*MACHIVENTA:* Most definitely. It is a means of addressing growth within
a nation, within a society to match that exponential growth. If you do not
have growth of thinking and of attitudes and assumptions, then the external
growth will dominate that thinking. Continue, please.
*The smallest effective size of an organization*
*Liz:* Where in the model should a discussion take place as to the
smallest effective size of an organization?
*MACHIVENTA:* That would be determined by the 7 values. That discussion
must take into account the quality of life, capacity of growth and
adaptability of individuals and of communities and societies, and for the
equal treatment of all individuals. When these organizations surpass their
capacity to have empathy for those individuals that they are to “serve,”
and to have compassion for them, and then to act in love of humanity as
they would for their own organizational existence, then you will have a
matched system of growth and adaptability of organizations that serve
everyone in a more holistic approach. The difficulty of that equation is
that it does not take into account the uncontrollable human population
growth. The formula itself is correct, it is something to think about and
it could be used for analyzing current situations. Remember that the 7
values dominate, or need to be infused in that formula to end up with
answers that are workable. The difficulty with the formula is that it is
intellectually advanced and surpasses the capacity of your societies and
your civilization to make the correction to where the formula works for
them for the future. Do you understand?
*Liz:* I do. Thank you very much. So he asks, “Is this book an
appropriate inclusion in the proposed curriculum reading that we are
proposing to these colleges about the curriculum of social sustainability?
*MACHIVENTA:* It is one book of many that will need to be included. One
must, in an academic setting, must not get too carried away with
intellectualizing the pragmatics of what is needed for your world to
adjust. There is a certain idealism involved in this work, which is akin
to accounting—accounting of numbers and formulas, and so on—whereas the
human factor is not included in that. If this academic practice of social
sustainability and understanding were taken to an intellectual level, then
there would be great difficulty for its application at the local level,
families and in public educational settings. You will find that this may
occur much as economics is a highly intellectual field of thought and
development, yet it can be used to examine the fundamental levels of
existence for the individual, and in that there can be changes to public
policy to make economies more livable for individuals. We surely do
appreciate Mr. Cutler’s efforts to work in educational settings, as this is
one of the primary areas that we will be pursuing in the implementation
phase.
*How to ask for assistance with a project*
*Liz:* Thank you for that, and along those lines, this is a private
request from him, in that he is meeting with the Dean of the Honors College
at Southern Oregon University today. It’s a follow-up to his first pitch
to him last June on the social sustainability presentation, which he has
now made to many—well several—Southern Oregon University Presidents, so
he’s requesting some assistance there this morning so that it all goes
smoothly.
*MACHIVENTA:* One moment. I have finished asking the Thought Adjusters of
those individuals who will be attending that meeting to urge their mortals
to work together for the greatest good of the ends of these proposals.
*Liz:* Thank you, Machiventa. That’s all I have for today.
*Roxie:* Concerning the recent situation between North Korea and the US,
if we pray for celestial intervention, is it possible to have celestial
help in keeping the thumbs off of the red buttons that send nuclear bombs?
[I asked because in the situation of 9/11, the celestials were not allowed
to interfere with the freewill decisions of the terrorists.]
*MACHIVENTA:* Yes, of course.
*Melchizedek Schools for Leadership*
*Liz:* I would like to go back to this idea of Melchizedek Schools for
Leadership. Is there a plan in place to implement one of those on this
planet in the near future?
*MACHIVENTA:* Yes, most definitely.
*Liz:* Is there anything that we can do to assist in that implementation?
*MACHIVENTA:* Yes, there is. Please continue.
*Liz:* I can see that it would take a lot of manpower organizational work
and I can almost envision how the first one could perhaps come to fruition,
but it’s a little bit fuzzy in my mind yet. I’m wondering if there is
something that we can do besides meditation and prayer. Is there some
action that we can take, either singly or as a group to bring one of those
into being?
*MACHIVENTA:* Yes, most certainly. The work of Jeff Cutler at the
university level is an appropriate place to consider inclusion of these
thoughts. It need not be called a Melchizedek School in a university
setting as that probably would not go over too well, but the thought of
social sustainability as a process that can be applied to planetary
management and to the development of peace surely would be included in an
academic program of social sustainability. This is a natural development,
don’t you think, because the planet is all there is; there is not any
larger social organizational setting than the planetary global setting.
National settings have self-interest, but a global setting has the
self-interest of the whole planet, therefore, when schools of economics and
politics and sociology begin to include the thought of planetary management
they will have reached the outer parameters of their thinking and
application for their professional work. Do you understand this?
*Would “planetary management” be more acceptable than “social
sustainability?”*
*Liz:* I am going to have to spend some time thinking about that and
perhaps adjusting the parameters of our presentation. It seems as if our
universities are all about how they can get funding, and how they can
acquire students, and so when we make a presentation to the universities,
that is foremost in their minds—how can we sell this, how can we get grants
for this class, how can we move this forward to benefit the whole of the
university. I’m wondering if courses on Planetary Management or the
concept of planetary management wouldn’t be more interesting to these
university people than social sustainability.
*MACHIVENTA:* Yes, you are correct. Just as Harvard and Yale and the
primary universities have schools of this and schools of that, as the Slone
or Kettering Schools of Economics, for example, you could have the “Cutler
School of Planetary Management.” It is a moniker that can be applied to
organizations, a university, or a school of thought that would attract many
people to see what this school is all about. Social sustainability is a
rather bland sort of topic to discuss, but when you have someone sponsoring
a school at a university, then it takes on a different meaning; it takes on
a certain competitive comparison between universities to have something
similar. The point is well taken and thoughtful, thank you.
*Liz:* Thank you very much.
*Ongoing revelation*
*Craig:* I have a question about Urantia organizations or associations.
It is to try and clarify what we talked about last week. It sounded like
before we were trying to include all the *Urantia Book* readers, whether or
not they were associated with channeling or even believed that it is
happening. Now it sounds like we are to move ahead and associate with each
other not only as *Urantia Book* readers, but also readers who are involved
or sympathetic to channeling and all the new revelation that’s going on.
That’s sort of leaving behind the channeling deniers, or whatever you want
to call them. That’s a new direction in a sense. Is that correct?
*MACHIVENTA:* I would like you to think of revelation as a train, and that
this train of revelation does not stop; that there are individuals,
organizations who have chosen to leave the train; they do not wish to go
forward with revelation to discover greater dimensions of the human
mind—how their relationship with their Thought Adjuster, with the
organization of the universe, or their personal relationship to their
Thought Adjuster, to their guardian angel, to Christ Michael, to Nebadonia
and to the celestial realm around them.
Rather than leaving them behind, they have left themselves behind; they
have left the train of revelation and have now isolated themselves into 3
groups away from the platform of the station of revelation. It is not that
we are deliberately leaving them behind, but they have left themselves
behind. Revelation has been spoken of in the *Urantia Book* many times and
the truth of revelation is that it is continuous, it is ongoing, and there
is a new revelation for every generation as it says. You must not think of
leaving your friends behind, for it is a matter that you would always have
an invitation for them to join you, always open to them and available for
them and that you would look forward to them joining you in discovering
this revelation.
It is not so much that we are advocating that you discuss channeling or
TRing, or any of these phenomena of the psychic realm, but rather that you
think in terms of revelation. This is the main core of what you have in
common. This will give the individual reader of the *Urantia Book*,
whether they are conservative, or a liberal reader of the *Urantia Book*,
an opportunity to engage in mutual discussion that is helpful for
everyone. You see what has happened is that channeling as a factor of
revelation has become politicized—you are either for it or against it—and
so it becomes a competitive vying for control of the believer to believe in
it or not to believe in it. What is most important is that you believe in
revelation as ongoing.
Revelation occurs with every individual who sits in meditation, who
deliberately and consciously keeps their mind in stillness so that their
Thought Adjuster can work with their mind mechanism. Yes, dear ones, there
are individuals whose minds are busy, but remember it is your intent that
is important. Whether your mind cooperates or not is another factor, but
when you take into account the will factor of your mind, that is the
important part that has the intention to offer the opportunity for the mind
to be open to your Thought Adjuster. Again, please focus on revelation;
you are the living revelation; you, each individual, have revelation coming
into your mind. Remember from our last session, when you open your mind to
meditation, when you open your mind by saying, “I *will* to do God’s Will,”
then you have truly opened yourself to receive revelation. And it is only
through revelation, whether you hear it in your mind, or whether it is in
the inner workings of your mind by your Thought Adjuster, that you grow
into oneness with the Father; you grow into becoming a part of the First
Source and Center. It is only through revelation that you will ever be
embraced by the Creator in Paradise.
*Craig:* That’s more of an answer than I expected!
*Roxie:* This is kind of a curiosity question, Machiventa, but is the
thalamus involved in the mind to mind connection during TRing?
*MACHIVENTA:* That is not a question we care to address right now.
*Liz:* I just want to say that that was such a lovely answer to Craig’s
question about revelation and meditation. I so appreciate that; that was
very meaningful for me today.
*Craig:* It adds perspective to that.
*Roxie:* With Jesus’ Birthday celebration coming up next week, it might
give some of us an opportunity to approach the subject [of revelation]
during the individual birthday celebration with our friends.
*MACHIVENTA:* We see that many of you still see yourselves in competition
with the 3 *Urantia Book* organizations. This competitive attitude does
not contribute to your personal revelation and we would really ask you to
cease the competitive thoughts or trying to convince these people. You are
putting your energies in the wrong place, at the wrong time, at the wrong
purposes.
*Revelatory Commission*
*MMc: * Regarding the decision for the Urantia Book to portray (or state)
that it is difficult for an individual to contact their TA (and
successfully know that is what has occurred), did that decision come out of
the times and those individuals putting together the *Urantia book* or was
that something that was passed down by the Revelatory Commission?
*MACHIVENTA:* Thank you for your question. That core of your question
arose out of the cultural context of the times and the fears of the
individuals who were culling the materials for inclusion. When you take
into consideration the importance of one individual knowing their Thought
Adjuster, you would realize that the Commission would never, never withhold
the presence or the encouragement of individuals coming in contact with
their Thought Adjuster. This situation of challenging what is there and
what is not there, is part of the dynamic of inquiry and discernment that
is necessary to receive a fuller understanding of how the *Urantia Book*
came into existence, and what was included and what was not included. Your
question is highly relevant and in many ways facilitates a closer
examination of the Papers that were included, and why there was a stilted
bias against understanding and knowing the Thought Adjuster. When you
realize that God wants to know each of you personally, and that the
Commission of Christ Michael and the Melchizedeks were centrally concerned
about the individual coming to know God more closely and more perfectly, so
that the individual may strive to become more complete and perfect as the
Creator, you would realize that there would never be any withholding of any
information for personal contact with the Thought Adjuster. Thank you for
your question.
*MMc:* Thank you for your answer.
*MACHIVENTA:* Let us bring today’s session to a close, please.
*Authentic, good, effective questions*
You have been tuning up your minds; you have been thinking; you have been
discerning; you have been using your skills and arts of inquiry to
formulate really authentic, good, effective questions that we can address.
As we told you many years ago, the quality of the question will determine
the quality of the answer. Many times the ones who address you, myself,
Monjoronson and others have striven to speak outside the box of the
question you have given us, and we have expanded your understanding of the
basic thoughts and elements of your question. This is necessary to assist
you to begin thinking in larger-than-life parameters of which you are
already a part by your belief system in understanding that there is a
Creator and that there is a Creator Son, and that there is a whole
hierarchy of organization to assist you to achieve the oneness which Jesus,
Christ Michael, gave to you as a commandment to attain and fulfill. To
your growth and to the development of your minds, we say, “thank you.” You
must give us permission to improve the working of your mind; this is a
cooperative effort. Many times the Thought Adjuster will take on the
responsibility of adjusting your mind to bring you into the position of
even asking the question “Is there a God?” Once you ask that question,
then of course that allows the entry of the answer, “Yes, of course there
is.” We wish you a good day and we look forward to our next session with
you. Good day.
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