[tmtranscripts] NET #08, Dec. 5, 2016

[Roxanne Andrews]

PR

*New Era Transition #08 – **Correcting Time; Overpopulation; Protests;
Media – Dec. 5, 2016*



*Machiventa Melchizedek*, Planetary Manager



Topics:

Progress of the Correcting Time

Consciousness separates this time from human history

Economic calamities are an example

Finding kinship

Correcting Time is long-term

The co-creating element is essential

Begin the process at the local level

Global dissemination of this material

Global strategy

The problem of overpopulation and immigration

The USA, Europe and NATO

The protest at Standing Rock

The resistance to dialog and compromise

Ancient, archaic and antiquated democratic process

Former predictions are still in place

Speeding up the process for change

What is a service driven economy?

Using the 6 core values

The ethics of media



TR: Daniel Raphael

Team members:  Roxanne Andrews, Craig Carmichael, Liz Cratty, Michael McCray



Invocation



[Note:  Our Dear Friend and team member, Suzanne Couch, who wished to be
called “Student,” out of humility, graduated to Mansonia on November 28,
and we miss her greatly.  Liz Cratty has become our new team member.]



*December 5, 2016*



*MACHIVENTA:* Good morning, this is Machiventa Melchizedek, your Planetary
Manager.



*Progress of the Correcting Time*



I have been reporting to you on the progress of the Correcting Time, and
the development of the work that we are doing.  You know that we began at
the social level with individuals, to bring them together in the Teaching
Mission, then the Magisterial Mission to find commonality among you and to
take on projects if you wish to.  That effort continues and will not go
unattended ever; it is a continuing project that will not stop.  It will
become more and more successful as time passes and the awareness of our
work becomes more known.



We have next begun the work on the political/democratic improvements.  This
will take much time and it will eventually require the efforts of
individual citizens coming together to reinvent their democracies, whether
that is in Japan, Korea, United States, Colombia or France, England,
Germany or Italy—or any of the other democratic nations of the world.  As
we have said, those were “First Stage Democracies” and most of those are at
the arc of their development and progression, and they have become more and
more incapable of producing answers to the many problems and situations
that have developed in the democratic process and the governance of their
populated nations.  They are not dysfunctional yet by any imagination, but
still could use great improvements in how they deal with the public and how
the public can participate more effectively in the generation of direction,
vision, and missions of their nations.



The last area of concern, the Economic, will be one of the last that gets
remedial attention.  This will come about as a development of the social
and political awareness that the economic processes aggrieve the
inequalities of the world, and that basic functional changes need to be
emplaced so that fairness and equality and opportunity abound again.  As
you are well aware, overpopulation of the world aggravates the social,
political and economic situations.  If you are a student of history, you
may have come to the conclusion that all of history has presented your
world now, today, with a great deal of experience of ‘what not to do.’  On
the other hand, there are not many solutions as to ‘what to do.’  It is
apparent some of your scientists and your historians and other individuals
are aware that it is time to assess that wisdom and apply solutions to your
world.  There is enough experience; there are enough lessons learned and
wisdom to now institute changes in those three major areas of societal and
social maintenance.  What is needed is a general awareness that you do have
the ability, you do have the history, experience, and lessons learned to
now figure out that there is a necessity of making improvements.



*Consciousness separates this time from human history*



What separates this time from all of human history is consciousness.  What
we are envisioning for you—and you should envision for yourself—and what
some of your cultural leaders have spoken about is cultural evolution.
Cultural, social, political, and economic evolution must become conscious
in order to have a future that you can move towards.  In other words,
installing conscious evolutionary practices is a means of transcending the
ancient process of learning by mistakes.  The unfortunate process of large
nations and large bureaucracies and hierarchies is that even when mistakes
are made there is no learning that has occurred.  Thus the lessons that
have occurred in history will be repeated without learning how to prevent
them.





*Economic calamities are an example*



Your economic calamities are a very clear example: the dynamics of finance
and economics are all keenly and accurately measured.  The problem that
exists in your society, particularly in the United States, is that large
moneyed corporations and organizations have embedded themselves so deeply
into the political processes that they resent the right working, or social
evolution, to correct the causes of these financial calamities.  It is the
dog chasing its tail once again, and it is much like the dog chasing its
tail at the edge of a cliff—it goes around and around and pretty soon it
slips and falls over the edge and you have a recession, a national
depression, or a global depression, which is the next coming financial and
fiscal situation that the world will bear.  The causes of these calamities
are well known; the ability to correct them comes about because there is no
intestinal fortitude, no courage, no strength of character to correct those
faults.  Economics and finances become a game to those who can make the
greatest profit margin and who can amass the greatest amounts of money.  It
has become simply a game rather than a necessity, and then you are into a
different league of maladjusted social existence at the international level
of finance and economics.



*Finding kinship*



As you know, we have brought many of you together in the past, and you have
enjoyed this very much.  Now, you have found your kinship among others in
other nations that you enjoy similar ideas and similar projects to work
on.  So too, at the larger macro level of the world, we are bringing
together organizations and associations that are guided and led by
individuals who aspire to the values that we aspire to for you.  These
groups and associations will soon become apparent to you and you will see
their national/international presence become known.  This is a very slow
process as you know, simply because there is an experiential deficit, which
is a kind way of saying that we—the celestial realm—do not have experience
in these processes of the Correcting Time, as Christ Michael has asked us
to pursue.  This is not a problem, it is simply a matter of us observing
you, and working with you co-creatively and drawing you into opportunities
that give you a way to move forward that assists us in leading your nations
forward again.  As we lead you individually, which of course as you know,
is the foundation of all spiritual developments, even that of a social and
societal nature, we will bring groups—your related associations and
organizations—together to produce direction and guidance for coming
generations.



*Correcting Time is long-term*



Some of you who are greatly humane and have great empathy for those who are
impoverished in spirit and materially in food and clothing, who seek
opportunities to improve themselves, may think the Correcting Time is
cold-hearted, that it does not seek to address the immediate needs of
individuals on a material basis.  We, however, do provide them with the
spiritual understanding of their situation as it exists for them.  The
Correcting Time is a long-term, on-going developmental and evolutionary
process of correcting the faults of the past 200,000 years and more.  It is
a process of changing the cultures of your world from war and desperate
difficulties to one that is positive, constructive, and humane in all
regards.  It is a multi-generational process, and in a multi-generational
process our conscious efforts will bring your world eventually into the
Days of Light and Life.  You will see this more and more if you are a young
person, and if you are of age you will see even more difficulties than you
see today before you see improvements.



*The co-creating element is essential*



I apologize that this is not a more encouraging report to give to you;
however, we do not frost these statements in sugar coating so that they are
acceptable to your intellectual palate.  We, however, will be quite
transparent to you and offer you a clear vision of what is and what is to
become.  The past is only useful as the lessons that it presents to you, to
us, and as we are able to engage the wisdom that we get from those lessons
with you co-creatively.  This co-creative element is essential to the
progress of the Correcting Time, and the remediation of your societies and
democracies.  No, we have not forgotten these societies and nations that
are not democratic; those are on an intellectual artificial course of
values that are dictated by the founders of their states and nations.
Those are more difficult to work with.  There we work with individuals to
receive information from the free nations, so that the individuals can make
conscious choices within their lives that are in agreement with the good of
your world and the good of their lives and their families.



*Begin the process at the local level*



You, as This One, are anxious to begin the process at the local level.  We
support any efforts that you choose to engage.  However, because of the
timing and circumstances of your world at this time, we are working towards
a rapid and global dissemination of the information and suggestions that
these programs will produce.  When you think of global change at that
level, you must also think that we are addressing the Internet, media in
its various forms, whether that is the social media, or whether it is the
print media, television media, or movie industry media and many others.  It
is a process by which we will bring to the world all of these changes.  Our
strategy is this: that you will see across the world all of the information
about how to reconstruct nations and societies that are destroyed during
these eventual changes.  This does not say that we will wait until those
occur; we will disseminate this material globally so that individuals and
groups and associations and organizations can immediately begin to
institute these improvements so that they can be ahead of the curve of what
is to come.  It is important even if you are a fiscal manager to know the
changes that are coming ahead, to know where to invest to protect your
assets and to know where they are most likely to grow in the future.  It
simply makes sense to look ahead to the future.



*Global dissemination of this material*



We are doing that for you and for the world population, and the world’s
civilization.  It is important that this information is disseminated
globally, worldwide, with attention to its is usefulness to those who
understand the values behind this.  As you work with each other, and you
work with organizations, you may become aware that you are being drawn to
individuals who have a similar value base as yourself, individuals who see
more in the world than its religions, but rather the spirituality of
kinship that causes another to be drawn to yet more people.  We are able to
work more easily and readily when two groups come together who have similar
value bases and who see that there is a holism and a synergy that is
greater than all the parts.  You can attribute that synergism to our
presence, to the presence of spirit and the energy of like-mindedness to
bring about concerted like-minded, constructive, enthusiastic, and holistic
answers and solutions.



*Global strategy*



When you are with those who are antagonistic and have different views and
different goals, it is going to be a waste of time and effort on your part
to convince them to become one of our kind—that is a personal decision on
their part, which can affect many thousands of people if they are a CEO of
a major corporation.  So, through this long monolog, you have seen our
tactics at the local level you have seen our strategy at the global level,
and you are seeing only a part of what is going on behind the scenes.  What
you don’t see is the clumping together of those ideas and concepts through
the intuitive intellect of individuals, who bring those concepts into
higher fruition and development and productivity.  It is only in this realm
that we can make rapid progress.



Thank you for your attention to this long discourse.



*Roxie:*  That was very helpful, Machiventa; thank you!



*MACHIVENTA:*  You are most welcome.



*Roxie:*  Does anyone have any questions on the opening statements?  (No
replies.)  How about the topic of improving our democracy in general?



*The problem of overpopulation and immigration*



*Craig:*  I have written down a few things.  I want to say I can see how
the overpopulation is an incredibly thorny problem because in the more
advanced societies the population growth has dropped to nil or even below
replacement levels, and the more undeveloped societies, where people don’t
seem to have “things together,” they are still having lots of kids, and
those get exported to the developed lands which aren’t particularly, or
wouldn’t be overpopulated if it wasn’t for all the importation of more
people.  Of course,  it is the more spiritually aware people that realize
that we are overpopulating, and so we get a [growing] population that tends
to become less and less spiritual, because those are the people having all
the kids.  Any comments on that?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, thank you for your statement.  What you are seeing is
the influx of immigrants to developed, democratic nations that have
relatively stable economies and political and social structures.  What is
missing from the program to receive those immigrants is a means of
enculturating them in the ways of democracy and social sustainability.
They do have enculturating and indoctrinating means for citizenship, but
the social maturity and social structure is not passed on to immigrants.
The reason this is missing is because it is essentially missing as an
instituted program for their own indigenous populations, their own
citizens.  Do you understand that so far, Sir?  (*Craig:*  I believe so.)
Then what is needed in order to amalgamate or include those new immigrants
into the stable society is a program of social enculturation and training
and education.  This may seem obvious to you, but when it does not exist
for the citizens of those nations, then it becomes not so obvious, but of
necessity for survival for those hosting nations.



When a million new citizens are brought into a nation—even a nation of 50
million people—that has a highly diluting effect in that population.  It
causes much disruption.  The old method of social, economic and political
assimilation that has occurred in past decades and centuries in nations,
such as the United States, which was populated by a very few million
people—the North American indigenous populations—the assimilation that they
had when new immigrants came was a process of accepting the same values of
opportunity, acquisition, and development of their innate skills and
potential to make improvements in their quality of life.  Those were sought
after by those immigrants in free nations.  They are still sought out by
immigrants into populated nations as well.



However, what is missing because of the density of existing populations in
those nations is a conscious process of enculturation and a conscious
effort of assimilation so that these new citizens learn the folkways and
mores and means of social etiquette, and so on, of conducting themselves in
ways that are productive and not disruptive to the existent populations.
We have, as you know, been working on the principles and concepts of social
sustainability and the principles that we hope will be taught to immigrants
and to existing populations.



*The USA, Europe and NATO*



*Craig:*  I have some comments on situations that it exists now.  One of
them is that NATO and the militarists in the USA seem to want to justify
their own immense power and existence at any cost.  Peace and International
cooperation and order would make them much less relevant and shrink their
budget allocations, so seeing the USA and NATO appear to many to have taken
an unwarranted hard line towards other countries, in particularly
demonizing Russia, trying to turn them into an enemy, whereas Russia seems
eager to work with other nations for International Law and economic
cooperation and agreements and that’s being thwarted by the militarists.
And now, you’ve got trade sanctions against Russia, apparently hurting
Europe economically more than anyone else.  And some speak of Europe acting
as sort of a vassal state of the USA as far as its foreign policies go.
They toe the line of the USA and NATO and in this sense, European nations
and Europe as a whole, in forgoing its own sovereignty in order to have a
greater unity of a sort, a solidarity with the USA, so now we see Europe
putting together a European Army.  Is this a response to being told too
much what to do by the USA even when it runs counter to their own interests?



*MACHIVENTA:*  I have no comment to your statement.



*Craig:*  Okay, I’ll drop that line.



*The protest at Standing Rock*



*Liz:*  Machiventa, this is Liz Cratty; I am honored to be here to speak
with you today.  I have been quite taken with this situation that happened
over the pipeline at Standing Rock.  Protestors apparently prevailed
yesterday in stopping this pipeline of oil through their sacred lands and
what strikes me about this in particular is how we have become an
argumentative society.  I don’t remember that happening before the
Internet, but now anytime anyone puts forth an opinion, there are people
who agree with it and there are just as many people who disagree with it.
Part of this has to do with our 24 hour media, I think; they have to have
the dissenting opinion all the time, and this was an example of the
grassroots coming together and really affecting change.  I was so heartened
that there were no dissenting opinions!  I guess the only dissenting
opinions were those of the oil companies, and they have become the ‘bad
guys’ in society.  My question to you is how do we bring our people
together around important matters?  It seems like it has to be a big thing
with huge media attention in order to affect this type of change.  When I
think of small things or community things, all I hear are dissenting
opinions.  It seems like it has to be something big that everybody agrees
upon and I just… I’m sorry, I’m having a hard time formulating a question
around this, except that our path forward has to do with these large things
that bring the spiritually minded people together, and they just don’t seem
to happen very often.



*MACHIVENTA:*  I understand.  As we have been saying all along, “need is
the mother of invention.”  Also, “might does not make right.”  These are
platitudes, but they are workable platitudes.  When there is sufficient
need and an aggrieved need as you are seeing with the Native Americans in
that situation, they have come together in solidarity, even from other
nations and from all over this nation.  They have come together to protest
the violation of their sacred ground.  There is unanimity among them and
this is the key to moving forward and to established compromise.  Sometimes
the “argument” requires that individuals who have strong feelings about
something come forward *en masse* to protest what is occurring.  In the
principles of grassroots, right action is something that this nation is
founded on; it is something that is inherent and intrinsic to any
operational and functional democracy.



*The resistance to dialog and compromise*



The great problem that you are seeing across your nation and the resistance
to dialog, resistance to compromise and fair play is that many millions of
individuals have become complacent in the parental care of big government
to their needs.  A sense of entitlement and privilege occurs in many people
that cause great laziness on their part to come together.  The changes that
must occur in your nation and in your democracy are historic, at this
point.  Your nation is at least 50-60 years past its arc of effectiveness
in resolving democratic issues, such as the one you are seeing.  It is time
for a non-aligned agency or organization to come to the aid of the nation’s
citizens individually and in groups to test and define their sentiments
regarding various issues.



You have recently had an election this last month in November and there
will not be another election that will occur in such dimensions for at
least 2 years, and then 4 years.  (There are some local elections that will
occur every year, however.)  There is far more need for individuals to find
commonality more frequently than just every 2 years.  You have the
technological means by which to assess ongoing sentiments of the public and
to provide unbiased objective information and materials to the public to
teach them what the issues involve.  It is unfortunate that you almost come
to the collapse of your democracy before instituting new democratic
processes that are advanced and needed by the public.



*Ancient, archaic and antiquated democratic process*



You are seeing a very ancient, archaic, and antiquated democratic process
trying to address the needs of hundreds of millions of citizens on a daily
basis, weekly or monthly basis.  This is simply impossible; the staid
processes that were instituted in 1789 to 1791 in this nation, have now
far-passed their “shelf life.”  It is time for a revision, a revision that
does not need to be revolutionary, or to be upsetting to the status quo.
You may think that I am asking a great deal of you, and I say that you
should ask the same of yourselves.



*Liz:*  Thank you, Machiventa.



*Former predictions are still in place*



*Roxie:*  In Christ Michael’s message at our last session, he said that his
forces would “quell any major global social, political or economic
disruptions that would hinder our work” in bringing the implementation of
our work together.  What does this mean in terms of earlier projections
that our government and economy would suffer downfalls along with the times
of cataclysms?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Those former predictions are still in place.  The
Triumvirate and the Management of this planet have the capacity to delay
many social, economic, and political disruptions, and it is our intention
to delay those as long as necessary to be sure that the implementation, as
I mentioned earlier at the global level, is accomplished.  This does not
preclude the ability of some irrational individual at a national level
taking independent action to the contrary.  As you know, we will not
abridge or violate the self-will autonomy of any individual, or the
decisions that they make; those can still happen, which would be most
unfortunate.







*Speeding up the process for change*



*Roxie:*  You mentioned that you can delay some of these things from
happening until a more appropriate time.  Can you also speed things up in
order to create a faster change in our society?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes.  This is where the co-creative relationship becomes
involved.  Through serendipity, coincidence and happenstance, and the
intuitive and conscious awareness of individuals who see what is happening
around them, we can bring that about.  It may be that, as a recent example,
you may be on an airplane flight and you have this feeling that you should
move from one seat to another.  You are not sure why, but you simply take
notice of that and change seats.  And soon, another passenger arrives in
the seat next to you, and soon you are discussing your work and your plans,
and suddenly you both realize that you are talking about the same kinds of
work, and that your work can be combined and shared and become productive
between you, or between your associates.



This is how we work this process of speeding up the right action.  As you
know, angels are the experts of relationships and of bringing people
together.  It is what we spoke about some weeks ago where I spoke about the
Thought Adjusters being on the same page, so to speak.  That is a rough
analogy, but they are reading from the “same book,” and understand what is
going on and assist their individual mortals to become aware and to act in
ways which are helpful to the planet.  Of course, Thought Adjusters are not
coercive, never have been and never will be, but they will continue to drop
suggestions to you where you have this niggling feeling, or this thought,
or this idea that maybe you should move to another seat, for example, and
so this occurs.  It may be that you decide to go down to the library, which
you may not have visited in weeks, or months, or years, and you sit in a
chair and soon you become the center of a large group of people who are
talking about the same subject.  You hear what they are speaking about and
make suggestions to them, and they to you.



The processes of the question that the individual asked about the Native
Americans gathering over the oil pipeline is very similar—bringing people
together who know that something is right and the opposite is wrong, and
this is a violation of “what is fair,” –so that you are brought together
with others who have like feelings.  When you have the capacity to do this
electronically with millions of individuals, then you will have a great
process, a powerful one, to make wonderful changes in your world.  There is
a caveat to that—and this should be easily available to you—and the caveat
is that there will be individuals who “own the media” who will want to sway
you and your opinions to take action according to what they want, and so
this will make you a “dupe,” or a person who is easily influenced to take
action that is not in the best interests of everyone.  You are in the
nascent, very, very early nascent stages of the development of a
consciously evolving society and democracy as one nation.  And when you
consider dozens upon dozens of other democratic nations that are in a
similar situation, you realize that you have so much work to ahead of you,
and so many decades to fulfill that.  Nonetheless, we will make progress
when you assist us, and we thank you.



*What is a service driven economy?*



*Liz:*  I am no economist, but I remember hearing something, or reading
something in one of the transcripts about economics, and it has stuck with
me and it is changing from “a profit driven economy to a service driven
economy.”  I have talked with many people trying to understand what that
might mean, but we are so wrapped up in the “profit driven economy” that no
one seems to be able to see outside of that box.  Could you, perhaps,
enlighten me a little bit as to what a “service driven economy” might look
like?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes.  First of all, you cannot separate profits from service
or from products.  There is a need for profit-making to sustain the
organization that is providing you the service, or the product.  In a
hotel, or a restaurant, or a dry-cleaning establishment, these
organizations provide a service to the public, yet they must make a profit
on that to stay in business.  What is important in your ideation about
service is the development of standards that are measurable.  Your question
is important.



To answer your question another way, from another angle:  When you research
the development of a product, you always look for best practices, both for
the concept of the product you are going to make, and the processes to make
that, and that it has a measurable improvement over previous editions of
that product.  Whether you are in ancient times, a flint maker, who is
knapping flint to make arrowheads and spearheads and knife edges, or
whether you are sewing leather garments together, or you are learning how
to heat and bend steel and form steel against a hard object; or whether you
are involved in the process of moving from vacuum tubes in old radios to
transistors to micro-circuits, and so forth; and whether you are moving
from iPhone 5 to iPhone 6—these are all material innovations, and there are
measurable standards by which you can manufacture and measure the
improvements of that product.  It is very measurable, and there are very
different standards in the material realm of innovation, development, and
invention.



*Using the 6 core values*



However, in the time of the existence of your species, which some estimate
at a quarter of a million years, there has never been known a standard of
performance that is universal, is irreducible and is innate to your
species.  That standard was undiscovered until approximately 8 or 9 years
ago, when the values that have sustained your species over the eons, became
known.  Your species has always searched for an improving *quality of life*,
and in that, you have gone from flint knives that break easily, to steel
knives and then stainless steel knives, for example.  You have improved the
quality of your life from moving out of rock caves into nice comfortable
homes that have central heating and so on.  You have had to *grow into your
potential* to make these improvements, and you have challenged yourself,
and you have striven hard to invent new means to improve your quality of
life.  Of course, you wanted to do so *equally as the next person* who had
more capability and more resources.  In *compassion* you help those who had
less than yourself, because you had *empathy* and you have a regard for all
of humanity because you have a regard and *love* for yourself and you
extend that to others.  The three primary values are universal to all
people; these are the criteria of actual measurement in social processes,
activities, and organizations as performance standards for budgets and for
programs.  These values have never been used this way before because they
were never known, and they were never disclosed.  When you want to make
improvements in your organizations, for instance in your human resources
departments, you would look to using these values in a measurable way to
make those improvements.  I have gone far afield to answer your question
and I am curious to see if you see an answer in these statements?



*Liz:*  That was not an answer that I was expecting, and I am quite taken
by your answer.  That’s going to give me a lot of food for thought and food
for discussion with other people who are very economically minded, so thank
you for that!  That furthers the discussion tremendously.



*MACHIVENTA:*  Thank you.



*The ethics of media*



*Craig:*  We just had the media mentioned and how they seem to be from a
measure pursuing false narratives in order to lead the public to certain
[unwarranted] conclusions.  And we also have the alternative media, which
has written documents on the Internet and people speaking on YouTube, and
we actually see the so called mainstream media trying to censor those, and
they appear to me to be a much more unbiased—of course everyone has some
bias—but what these people are doing [is] out of their love for the truth,
and not for profit motive.  Do you have any comments on that?



*MACHIVENTA:*  Yes, this is part and parcel a part of a very innocent,
naïve, and young democratic process.  The aging of thought and maturity has
not occurred in the institutionalized organizations of your nation.  You
are seeing where the freedom of speech and freedom of media are rights that
are embedded deeply into the values of democracy and they are necessary for
the right functioning of democracy.  What is missing, however, are the
standards, the criteria where those false statements or those that are
inclined to a position or opinion that abridges right thinking and good
judgment on the part of everyone.  There has been no means by which your
society can curtail or curb or correct those sources of media that are not
aligned with truth and unbiased reporting.



We have seen the vast extreme of this in dictatorships where a media is
immediately halted, where the police go into a publication and destroy
their means of publication.  This is not a good solution, as you would well
think.  However, there are no bodies, no judges, and no independent
organizations to make an opinion in a rapid manner to correct these
faults.  The judicial process to do so in your courts is far too slow and
the damage is far too immediate, and the means of correcting the problems
are not sufficient enough to make an impression upon the executives and the
owners of those media outlets.  You are seeing in this early, young
democracy of yours, which is perhaps one of the oldest ones in the world,
that you are seeing many problems that need correcting, but you do not have
the mechanisms to do so.  These are all integrated and must come into
existence eventually, even if they do so by piecemeal means.  The problem
you present is not correctable at this time within your societies for
immediate correction.



This is *Daniel*:  I’ve just about reached the end of my “tether” here.



[Note:  Daniel has been recuperating from a very nasty head cold and his
energy is drained, so we are ending the session and there are no closing
remarks from Machiventa this time.]



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