[tmtranscripts] Fw: Nebadonia 11.1.10
JERRY LANE
nytrayn at msn.com
Thu Nov 18 07:35:35 PST 2010
Dear Folks, I guess this message didn't get out to everyone so I'll resend it again. JL
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From: JERRY LANE<mailto:nytrayn at msn.com>
To: Gerdean O'Dell<mailto:gerdean at cableone.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: [tmtranscripts] Nebadonia 11.1.10
Dear Gerdean, Hello old friend. Sorry but I cannot understand your question about finiteness. It's right there in the heading of paper 116 I quoted. Everything out here in time and space is under the supervision of the Supreme Being, including the Ancients of Days, the Major and Minor Sector heads, and the Creator Sons and Daughters. They are all agents of supremacy and subordinate to the Supreme Being, no more divine nor infinite than he, and he is finite.
The Life Carriers made no mistake in the UB, nor did the first readers react to any. An interpretation of racism--which is a mistake--is only in the eyes of the reader who interprets it that way. Most folks don't. The mistake that Mother Spirit confessed to is one that others have brought up: why couldn't she--if she is our absolute and infinite and divine mother, anticipate that folks would later mis-interpret the text, and have it rewritten it so no such mistake was even possible. Answer; she is neither absolute nor infinite. That argument could be laid at the feet of the Life Carriers too, for whose sake she takes responsibility as well as she is their spirit mother and close supervisor. In other words, she is freely acknowledging and accepting the responsibility for failing to anticipate even a mistaken possibility. This is, to me, an unfathomably loving example of how she is, and wants to be considered, an inextricable part of me, as human, and as close, as I am to myself, even while she is also a Creative Daughter of the Infinite Spirit and the Mother Spirit to millions of worlds and trillions of personal beings--infinite enough for me.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerdean O'Dell<mailto:gerdean at cableone.net>
To: A teaching mission discussion list<mailto:tml at circuit1.teamcircuits.com> ; JERRY LANE<mailto:nytrayn at msn.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [tmtranscripts] Nebadonia 11.1.10
"She said it was a mistake! -- but how could this be?" I have no clue. But your post did call to my attention something I wanted to ask about. Twice you described our Creator Son and the Divine Minister as "finite." I cannot recall ever having read that before. Can you direct me to something in the text that would indicate that they are considered finite? I'm not arguing the point; just needing confirmation.
As for what Nebadonia said about the UB having made a mistake, I will have to ponder that long and hard, deep in my heart and in my deep mind. I cannot rule it out immediately because I have experienced Adam and Eve's apology, and it was profound! I have also had my Adjuster apologize to me for all the crap I have had to put up with on this planet. But for all of it, ... I need to study on it a bit more. If my head and my heart aren't in synch over an issue, it remains unresolved and one of my favorite things about the UB is that it provided me with intellectual peace, and I am not inclined to give that up. And it's not that I have to understand everything, nor do things always have to stay the same, but I do need to at least attempt to understand ... particularly when it is a matter of my faith, my belief, and my relationship with my peers, particularly my fellow T/R's.
I also wonder why good parents would take responsibility for their children's viewpoint. Anyway, ...
Thank you, Jerry.
Gerdean
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From: JERRY LANE<mailto:nytrayn at msn.com>
To: TMTranscripts<mailto:TMTranscripts at circuit1.teamcircuits.com> ; tml2<mailto:tml at lectra.virtualbiz.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:41 AM
Subject: [tmtranscripts] Nebadonia 11.1.10
Dear folks, My insight as T/R of the material is no more valid nor valuable than anyone else's, so my take on Nebadonia's latest message is only that, however unbelievable at first, coming from the being whose Holy Spirit is keeping my heart beating, this was in her own words a humble and sincere apology. While neither she nor Michael directly wrote the Urantia book's paper on the Evolutionary Races of Color, it was done under their auspices and, like good parents taking responsibility for their children's (Life Carrier's) viewpoint, they take responsibility for it as well. She said it was a mistake!--but how could this be?
It took a while but I was able to find a remembered passage in the Urantia book that may shed light on this. "Paper 116, The Almighty Supreme: If man recognized that his Creators--his immediate supervisors--while being divine were also finite, and that the God of time and space is an evolving and non-absolute Deity, then would the inconsistencies of temporal inequalities cease to be profound religious paradoxes." Since this is addressing no less than the Supreme Being, I think it might also hold for our own Creators, our own "immediate supervisors"--Michael and Nebadonia, divine but finite, having stated themselves, and often, that they too are just "out here" in time and space evolving and earning a soul just like we (hopefully) are. Her apology is just another unfathomable offer of equality with us, as is Michael's being not only our Father Spirit but also our closest friend.
From the point of view of the Life Carriers who wrote the paper--(it's interesting to go back and read it)--in this context they were assessing human evolution mainly in terms of a blending of colors--the original purpose for the programmed emergence of different colors, the addition of Adamic/Andite stock--the violet race, and even climate--something about man progressing on the cold northern plains but languishing in the tropics; nothing about any intrinsic racial superiority or inferiority. The first readers didn't react in a racist way, nor catch any implication the words would be read in that way, so neither did their Thought Adjusters for any necessary rewrite as was done with other papers. These passages were terribly mis-taken only by those in a later generation who could not, as the Urantia book itself states and Nebadonia repeated, use their wisdom's hallmark, a sense of proportion to weigh a few statements as part of over two thousand pages on subjects covering dozens and dozens of human disciplines, plus thousands of concepts unique to all of human history and literature, plus the life of Jesus; all of it hanging together with no internal inconsistency I've yet been able to find. To them a few racist-seeming remarks were enough to invalidate the whole. So this mistake was, and still may be compounded by another thing the book warns against--taking it, or any written work, in a fundamentalist way as some immaculate pronouncement by Deity Itself. Deity is not an "it" but personal and, in Michael's and Mother Spirit's case, divine but finite, as is their gift of life to us. The final test is always, as she says, within us as a resonance with Michael's Spirit of Truth; i.e. does it ring true? That is our responsibility in part and in whole. Mother Spirit has confessed to a mistake in not anticipating a possible but mistaken racist-interpretation where none was intended, and sincerely apologized. What more can we ask of her? JL
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