[tmtranscripts] FW: 96 Monjoronson - Soul Evolution - Testing - Material Sons and Daughters - Apr 13, 2010 - Audio Session #96

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Monjoronson - Soul Evolution - Testing - Material Sons and Daughters - Apr
13, 2010 - Audio Session #96
Monjoronson.com Session #96
Teacher: Monjoronson

Topics Discussed This Session

Mind Duplication & Soul Evolution
Our Sun
New Expression of the Trinity
Severe Testing
The Material Sons and Daughters
Mature Democracies


T/R: Mark Rogers
Moderator: Mary Rogers
April 13, 2010




Prayer: Divine Parents, we gather here tonight with you to join in this
process of coming together in honor of this service project with
Monjoronson. We would pool our intentions here in this process to make this
connection and to each one of us be a part in the chain that makes this
happen. Thank you for the opportunity. Help us to be pure of heart and
intention in this process. We trust that it will be so. Thank you.

Monjoronson: Greetings to all assembled, I am Monjoronson here to join with
you as well in this process. It is a pleasure to be working together for the
benefit of this world. I am in readiness, let us begin.

Mind Duplication and Soul Evolution

Preamble: From the Urantia Book: "On the evolutionary worlds, will creatures
traverse three general developmental stages of being: From the arrival of
the Adjuster to comparative full growth, about twenty years of age on
Urantia, the Monitors are sometimes designated Thought Changers. From this
time to the attainment of discretion, about forty years, the Mystery
Monitors are called Thought Adjusters. From the attainment of discretion to
deliverance from the flesh, they are often referred to as Thought
Controllers. These three phases of mortal life have no connection with the
three stages of Adjuster progress in mind duplication and soul evolution."

Question #1: Can you explain what the three stages of Adjuster progress in
mind duplication and soul evolution are? Thank you.

Monjoronson: Monjoronson here to thank you for your question. As this quote
you refer to indicates, they are customarily categorized into three general
areas which mimic the life of a mortal of this realm except that they play
out in a time frame that is infinite instead of the finite time frame.
[There is] . . . a beginning phase, an intermediate phase, and a phase of
completion. It would do me no good to attempt to put any sort of time frames
on these because they are conditioned by the advancements and achievements
of the Adjuster and the individual personality that are working towards the
eventual union and becoming as one.

This whole first mortal step and perhaps a number of the morontia steps may
all be within the first level of attainment of the Adjuster to simply become
known by the mortal of his indwelling and phase two can be likened to the
morontia realms of the mortal where there is a working together, a growing
to maturity, and the final level has to do with operating in the realms of
perfection. Much as your infinite career as a child of God, you have a
beginning phase which may last through several stages, you have an
intermediate phase where you are transforming from your beginning phase into
your perfected phase and then there is a stage of achievement. This pattern,
as you will witness, is a common one repeated throughout many a universal
plan of progression.

So, suffice it to say, it is very similar to what you might have considered
about your own eternal career but there are different benchmarks of
achievement for the Adjuster. I hope this helps to illuminate some of your
curiosity. Thank you.

New Expression of the Trinity

Question #2: It is said in the Urantia Book that on the secret worlds of the
Father there are unique representations of the Trinity to be found there.
Could it be that when God the Supreme actualizes that there may also be a
unique representation of the Supreme to then be found on Ascendington?

Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. As you may well suspect,
everything that is a manifestation or representation is its own unique
variation of the One First Source and Center. No representation on any other
worlds will be identical because they are manifesting at different
coordinates of time and space, under different conditions, with different
circumstances attending their manifestation. You witness on your own world
that every single unique manifestation of a child of God is unto itself and
no two are identical. As many representations as there are there, there are
that many distinctions and variations on the theme. The whole idea of
expression in time and space and throughout your spiritual dimension is to
be a unique expression, an individual expression, one that is not simply a
mirror of another. Likewise, when the Supreme is fragmented into its various
expressions, each will have its own facets and its own projection of what is
a part of the whole.

Running throughout all of these mixed and varied expressions, of course,
there remain the key central representation much as the drop is combined of
the same stuff as the whole but yet each drop will crystalize individually
and distinctly. This is how they can be at once the same and completely
individual. This is the pattern which is repeated throughout all that has
been created. There is a desire to allow for difference and independence in
every creative act of expression and I believe you will bear witness to this
even on your own world. Certainly this pattern is replicated on up through
the divine realms; as below, so it is above. Thank you.

Severe Testing

Preamble: Teacher Zarath said in 2006 concerning the changes we on earth are
going to experience: "The greater harmony that this world is on the brink of
experiencing, first must pass through a severe testing time. Stay firm with
your faith in the love and desire of Michael to bring this all about, and
also for the mighty efforts of Monjoronson, soon to be evident.

Question #3: Monjoronson, as we undergo "severe testing," how do you plan to
reach people with God's reassurance in the midst of dark times?

Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. I will play on the theme of severe
testing and I would ask you to consider what happens when you are tested as
students. You are subjected to and required to make a choice, to offer a
decision, to come to some point of declaration of the right answer. Such is
a similar case that you refer to about this severe testing. As mortals of
the realm it is not so much that you will be subjected to severity as you
will be required to choose and in making your choices, you then will be
subject to the results of these choices. This is not something that is
imposed upon you for your discomfort or to somehow cause you undue stress
but rather these choices are being offered to you as a divine privilege for
you to then choose as you so desire.

It may seem to many individuals as though this is a trying or testing time
because many contrasts are being brought to the front to be considered and
in so choosing you choose your direction. But this is not in any way a bad
thing, merely a part of the process before you. As to what I will do to
reach those who are in this turmoil of choosing, I simply come as
representative of the Father and offer all those with ears to hear, a
choice. I am not here to twist arms or to convince anybody; I simply stand
as an option which can be chosen as do all those others who portray the love
of the Father.

We will stand on these truths and we will provide contrasts to the darkness
and then it will be up to those individuals to choose. Realize also that
each and every individual has an internal wired connection to their
Indwelling Spirit who is also attempting to assist them in this choosing
process. Likewise, do they have the benefit of the Spirit of Truth bestowed
by their Father for this same purpose, to aid them and assist them in making
the righteous choice. That is how we will reach the many, many, individuals
who will find themselves with the act of choosing. Many of you may stand as
an example on the outside but there are also internal forces at play working
from the very most basic level of the citadel of the soul.

So have faith and trust that individuals will be made aware from these many
different angles of the choices to be made and then we must all respect the
choices that they make, given these contrasts, and provided with these
distinctions. Thank you for this question.

Question #4: Zarath speaks of your "mighty efforts," may we assume these
efforts include the means to provide timely instructions for survival and
the preservation of resources we have not lost?

Question #5: We know Michael is very interested in helping the planet
through its testing. Knowing our own world and its very slow government
processes, is one of Michael's contributions to the mission to be the one
who will cut through the red tape?

Monjoronson: Thank you for these questions. I would like to remind the
questioner that I have been engaged even now for years in providing exactly
such instruction for survival and preservation. I primarily refer to your
eternal salvation and your everlasting preservation. I have many times
stated that you as an individual are quite safe and secure as a child of the
Creator, that all that is real and enduring is quite safe and under no
direct attack by things of this world. So rest assured that on the level
which I argue is the level which really counts, we have been engaged in this
process of assuring you that you are quite safe and in the hands of those
who are monitoring and implementing this gigantic plan.

That having been said, I also remind you, I have on a number of occasions,
offered suggestions as to how to maximize the efficacy of your experience
while here on this plane. I am entrusted with the responsibility of
overseeing this planetary adjudication and so I am, like you, focused on the
direct implication of the time and space existence on this world at this
time. I have offered much advice as to how to obtain a shift in
consciousness and awareness which would result in the rather wholesale
change in the way life is lived which would indeed preserve the resources
required to live such a life.

You observe from your brief perspective that change comes to a government or
a people very slowly and in relation to your glimpse at the process, I grant
you that it may seem too slow for your taste. I remind you, as you have
learned in your text, that on many occasions in your planetary evolution,
there have been sudden shifts which seem to come about virtually overnight
in contrast to the ages and stages that you are aware of. So all things are
possible; all things are being considered. They have referred to my mighty
mission because I will undertake any and every opportunity at hand to
manifest this change on this world with the most positive effect and impact
on all those who are involved.

But I am but an outside influence. Truly the results will be obtained, or
not, by you; all of you who will follow the directions, make the choice, and
proceed in the direction of your choosing. I am not the one with my hands at
the wheel. You are the drivers who decide which turns you will take and how
fast you will proceed. I am merely a coach offering suggestions on routes
that might be taken. So while you might seek for some commander to come
forth and set things straight, just like the apostles did of the Master,
this is not the scenario which typically unfolds as your history recalls.
Great changes rise up from within, they are not forced from on high. Once
changes begin to rise up from within, they certainly may be augmented by all
the forces of heaven but it is not imposed upon the peoples of this world,
rather it is celebrated when it is chosen and embraced when it is come to by
the natural course of the free will choice. Thank you for this question.

The Material Sons and Daughters

Preamble: We understand that there are at least three programs or missions
that are part of the correcting time for Urantia. We know of the text work,
the Teaching Mission, and the Magisterial Mission, and we expect that there
are other and simultaneous missions as well.

Question #6: With regard to the Material Sons and Daughters, what role has
Michael determined that they will play in the coming revision of Urantia's
culture? Will they be within the Magisterial Mission or will they be given a
mission to Urantia under their own direction?

Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. I acknowledge your desire to push
to the very brink your understanding of such concepts but I am not at
liberty to offer you such revelatory material at this time. That is not my
mandate nor my mission. I am limited in my own mandate of engaging in that
which concerns my mission and I will answer gladly all questions pertaining
to that. But as to what the Father has in mind for various other orders
under other conditions I would not presume to engage in either speculation
nor revelation. Suffice it to say that the divine plans of which you are
becoming more and more familiar is inclusive of all such aspects and that
patterns consistent with truth, beauty, and goodness will continue to be
portrayed throughout.

The one thing I can tell you of course, is that the plan is under the
jurisdiction of the First Source and Center who has all under consideration
and as a witness to this process, just as you are, I am certain, just as you
may be coming to be, that when these things are revealed they will similarly
portray the same values which are consistent with the love of the Father. So
the details overall matter little and would be subject to the conditions at
hand but would be consistent with the love that is constant throughout. If
we learn one thing in this gigantic enterprise it is to trust and have
faith. So that I can say with a certainty. Thank you.

Question #7: Will you be instrumental in re-establishing another garden, as
in the Garden of Eden on Urantia?

Monjoronson: Thank you. One the one hand, I can assure you that my
participation will be instrumental in all acts that work toward the
illumination of this world; however if there is to be another garden for
instance, it will be as a result of those of you who share a common desire
and who are the hands and feet dedicated to getting the job done. If this
were the case, I can guarantee you I would be involved to the degree I am
welcome in the project. But such a project should never represent a request
or mandate from me, rather I wait to give my support to those who are in
motion, those who are proceeding in the direction of their faith. Where
there is motion, you can count on the fact that I am keenly interested,
aware, and even instrumental to the degree I am welcome. So yes, if there is
change that is significant and progressive, moving in the direction of
spiritual awareness and eventual light and life, I am in, count on me.

To the degree that I will issue mandates and orders defining for you the
next step for you to take, I will decline as this would represent the
circumvention of that aspect of your being, your free will choice, which is
off limits for any other personality regardless of their stature to unduly
influence. This is how the game works here on this world. Many are looking
for some savior to ride in and rescue. Many would like to be told what to
do; many are waiting for signs and symbols so that they may somehow proceed
forward with a faith that is newly found. I say, the ones that you have been
waiting for are you and it is of supreme importance that the steps that are
taken in the redirection of your world be initiated and instituted by those
players who are on the field. So I will suggest that you take it upon
yourselves to consider that you are the ones in place, you are the ones who
can act, who can choose, who can be, who can do. I am merely one offering
to help, offering some perspective, offering some inspiration perhaps.

But in the end, this is your world and it is under your jurisdiction and
while I may be ever willing to assist, it is not up to me to simply make it
right. I will ever be there to guide and direct and inspire. That is my
mission and purpose but I am not the one with the material hands and feet
that can be about the job of the nuts and bolts of this world. I hope you
will become the inspired one and become the choosing one and the acting one.
Then I will assure you, I will assist you in any and every manner possible.
That is the best way for you who desire to assist me to function, to allow
me to be the one assisting you. I hope this shift in perspective can prove
helpful to you. Thank you.

Mature Democracies:

Preamble: You have stated that some countries on Urantia have reached the
point [where] we may characterize them as "mature democracies." The United
States in particular seems to have reached the point of internal tensions as
a mature democracy through a great emphasis by political factions and the
multiplication of vicious minorities.

Question #8: Does a democracy that reaches this age, have any choice to
change itself peacefully and with a majority agreement that it needs to be
done? We would appreciate hearing any comments you may have about these
democratic difficulties in America or the rest of the world which cry for
solution. Thank you.

Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. When a democracy is referred to as
a mature democracy, you must realize that is only in relationship to
beginning democracies or cultures of any kind. Any governing system is in
rather constant need of revision as times change and circumstances shift.
You ask the question whether there is hope for change and that is what many
people see democracy as offering hope for; that is the whole premise of
democracy is based upon the continual choosing and re-choosing of your
values as reflected in the officials who stand for these values. This
process of continual renewing is designed by its very nature to be flexible
and in a state of accommodating the wishes of the people and therein is the
hope, as you refer to it, of somehow, someday getting it right.

The hope of the possibility of people coming together and banding under a
more ideal condition is only achieved by the offering of contrasts and the
subsequent choices between such contrasts. When there is little difference
to choose between, it matters very little as to which you choose. The
greater and greater the differences between the contrasts, the more
significant your choice is and the more important the choosing and the
subsequent direction become. That is what you see happening in your politics
today. There is great polarization going; many seeing great division between
this way or that way. All this serves to make for a more clear cut choice
and a greater opportunity to pursue one direction distinctly different from
another.

Also remember that any system such as this democracy you refer to, is
nothing more than a collective organization of humans and whenever there are
people involved, the system is subject to personal individual influences. So
no matter what form of system is in place, it is subject to those players
who are involved with it and any system may be manipulated by those whose
desire it is to direct the process. On a more advanced planet or a world of
light and life, these grand distinctions need not be so contrastive to each
other because there becomes a time where there is a collective shift towards
choosing that which is the higher and more divine way accompanied by a
collective awareness of what that way is. Therefore this need of having to
choose between two uncertain directions fades away into a collective desire
to follow the light, to follow the truth, to seek the goodness and the
beauty and to know the direction in which to seek.

Right now there is confusion about your choosing the basic conditions as
they are represented to you by those offering you the choice. There is
manipulation, there is doubt, there is uncertainty even among those who
profess to seek the same ends. The more spiritualized perspective would
narrow this field significantly and provide for you a more clearly defined
set of choices. This system of democracy is the one you are currently
working with so you should attempt to utilize it to its best capacity. Every
time you are given a chance to choose you should do so with the new
perspective, with the new information, with the new experience of how the
current system is working. If you continue to be faithful to this process
and if this process is duly upheld, then eventually your choices will be
more clearly reflective of divine influences and less reflective of personal
interests. That is when a truly mature democracy will flower and be a joyous
contribution to be observed and participated in. Thank you.

Our Sun:

Preamble: Recently, scientists have discovered that twin star systems are
very common in the galaxy and single star systems are actually very rare.

Question #9: Does our sun possess a twin star or perhaps a dwarf companion
orbiting it?

Monjoronson: Thank you. Once again I must say that I am reluctant to address
such an issue which may be of revelatory nature. Your scientists most surely
will come to their own observations and realization. Such matters are of
little significance to your spiritual ascent so I would stick more to the
matters which pertain to your spiritual career and those matters under which
you have some jurisdiction and which have some influence on your lives. Such
issues of stars and suns may be fun to contemplate and interesting to ponder
but, as I have said, are of little consequence to you, your life, your role
in relationship to all that is. It really matters little what is going on in
the next state or the next county in relationship to your being. It is far
less significant what is going on far out in the starry realms. So I
encourage you to dream big dreams about the "what ifs" of all that is but
remain focused as well on your own individual universe of life and
experience and your orbit around "your own sun" and how that is paramount in
your experience and your step by step eternal career.

Thank you for these questions tonight.

Mary: That is our final question tonight Monjoronson. We would open the
floor to any further comments you may have this evening. Thank you.

[pause and no further comment from Monjoronson] Well that concludes the
session for this evening. We appreciate the services of our t/r and also our
transcriber, good evening.







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