[tmtranscripts] Fw: Re: [tml] Lone T/R Gerdean w/Monjoronson 9-13-09

[john kimble]

--- On Tue, 9/15/09, john kimble <spirit4ya at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: john kimble <spirit4ya at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [tml] [tmtranscripts] Lone T/R Gerdean w/Monjoronson 9-13-09
> To: "A teaching mission discussion list" <tml at circuit1.teamcircuits.com>
> Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 5:18 PM
> You GO girl!!  I am sooo happy
> to see you "choose" to develop a relationship with another
> of our divine brothers.  Like Christ Michael, Mother
> Nebadonia, Machiventa Melchizedek, and so many others,
> Monjoronson is our Brother in Spirit.
> 
> It's not about "following" anyone or changing loyalties but
> rather developing new connections and building new
> relationships with our celestial and divine overseers. 
> The day will surely come when we will have to do the same
> thing with the Trinity Teacher Sons.  Hopefully, we
> will be more open minded to their Reality.
> 
> It's all about RELATIONSHIPS, not followings.  We are
> not "gang members" defending and following Christ Michael,
> our leader.  We are involved in "divine relationships"
> with these beings.  Monjoronson is part of the same
> TeaM, working for the same end.  He comes not to lead,
> but to join, to help, to serve.  And, to develop a
> RELATIONSHIP with us.  Now, what's so wrong with
> that?  My hats off to you Gerdean.  You go girl!
> 
> May God bless your efforts in building this new
> relationship with Monjoronson, our brother from Paradise.
> 
> STuTe
> 
> --- On Mon, 9/14/09, Gerdean O'Dell <Gerdean at cableone.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Gerdean O'Dell <Gerdean at cableone.net>
> > Subject: [tml] [tmtranscripts] Lone T/R Gerdean
> w/Monjoronson 9-13-09
> > To: tmtranscripts at circuit1.teamcircuits.com
> > Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:43 AM
> > 
> > 
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Date:  September 13, 2009
> > Location:   Rio Rancho,
> > NM
> > Lone 
> > T/R: 
> > Gerdean
> > TEACHER:  Merium, Monjoronson, 
> > Serena
> > Topic:   Crossing the Monjoronson 
> > Hurdle
> > 
> >   
> > MERIUM:  Good evening, Gerdean.  This is Merium.  I
> and we have been waiting for
> > you.  
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Hello, Merium.  Who is “we”?
> >   
> > MERIUM:  Oh, you know, the regular entourage
> > of 
> > morontia personalities, spirit beings, midwayers, just
> the
> > home team.  Not to worry.  How are you?
> >   
> > Gerdean:  I’m kind of tired, actually,
> > Merium, and 
> > wasn’t sure if this was a good idea, to embark upon
> this
> > project at night when I 
> > am rather bushed already, but … it seemed a good
> place to
> > start.  
> >   
> > MERIUM:  I know you like having an
> > opportunity to 
> > focus your mind. 
> > 
> >   
> > Gerdean: Yes, 
> > I do.  It clears my mind to
> > focus on 
> > something.  It’s been busy
> > with 
> > myriad details of getting ready for houseguests and
> the
> > upcoming Taos 
> > Conference.
> >   
> > MERIUM:  So you are excited, as well as 
> > tired.
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Yes, and that is not optimal, not 
> > optimum mind frame to be in for this
> > conversation.
> >   
> > MERIUM:  Do you want to
> > wait?
> >   
> > Gerdean:  No, I would like to proceed.  Maybe
> establish a ground work or 
> > something.   It is 
> > uncomfortable for me to be engaging in … an entity
> whom I
> > have not determined is 
> > “real”.
> >   
> > MERIUM:  That’s okay.  You said, we said, you
> would just
> > be 
> > talking to yourself, as it were, and maybe that alone
> would
> > help you, enable you 
> > to clarify a few things. 
> > Talking it 
> > out with yourself sort of clears the mind, too,
> don’t you
> > 
> > think?
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Yes.  (Pause)  
> >   
> > MERIUM:  Let’s get some Spirit
> > involved.  Bring in the Spirit of Truth.  
> >   
> > Gerdean:  I’m there.
> >   
> > MERIUM:  Good.  Let me lead you.  I will be here
> the whole time.  I will only interrupt if I feel it
> > is 
> > absolutely necessary; otherwise, you will be talking
> with
> > the mindal 
> > configuration of Monjoronson.
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Monjoronson, … Wait.  (Pause)  I want
> it to be made very clear
> > that I 
> > do not find it plausible that you, Monjoronson, are
> the
> > Magisterial Son.  
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  Why is that?
> >   
> > Gerdean:  I must have a half dozen reasons
> > for not 
> > liking that name and not the least of which is that
> it
> > lowers you in my mind … 
> > to such an extent I lose respect for your
> > stature.
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  This is based on what?  Respect for
> the 
> > judiciary?
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Yes, it does.  If you are a Magisterial
> Son, then
> > I am 
> > going to refer to you as your title, your office, and
> not
> > by your name.  To do so would be 
> > disrespectful.
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  This is your mortal 
> > training.
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Yes, it is, but it works for 
> > me.
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  Then don’t call me
> > Monjoronson.  Call me something that you are more
> > 
> > comfortable with.  You don’t
> > want to 
> > call me Your Majesty, do you?
> >   
> > Gerdean:  No, of course not.  But Your Honor seems
> appropriate
> > for a 
> > judicial type personality.
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  I would bow to your use of such a 
> > term.
> >   
> > Gerdean:  But I’m not sure you are our
> > Magisterial 
> > Son, that’s the point of this conversation.  I am
> just not sure about you at 
> > all.
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  Well, there is not much I can do
> > about 
> > your choices, my dear.  You have
> > 
> > free will.  You may acknowledge
> > my 
> > existence or not.  It does not
> > make 
> > me any less real … particularly it does not make me
> any
> > less real to those who 
> > find my existence here to be comforting and
> > reassuring.
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Why do they, if I may 
> > ask?
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  You will need to ask them.  I know
> they have told you already
> > but if 
> > it is not sinking in, if it is not impressing you,
> then
> > there is nothing I can 
> > do about it.  It is not required
> > 
> > that you believe in me.  It is
> > not 
> > essential for you to know me. 
> > You 
> > can and will evolve and grow in spirit reality with
> or
> > without including me in 
> > your far-flung frame of reference for spirit and
> morontia
> > personalities.  It will not affect your survival,
> > nor 
> > will anyone think any less of you.  
> > Truly.  Frankly, they
> > don’t 
> > care what you believe.  They
> > feel 
> > sorry for you that you don’t believe as they do, but
> this
> > is probably true of 
> > any devout believer in any philosophy or position. 
> It’s the nature of faith, you 
> > see.
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Yes, I do see.  
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  Well, then, having that
> > established, are 
> > there other questions you would like to ask me while I
> am
> > here in your 
> > peripheral super-consciousness? 
> > I 
> > know you are holding me at arm’s length.  
> > You have not embraced me, and I respect that.  It is
> not necessary for you to fall
> > down 
> > before me or worship me or adore me.  
> > I am not a god.  I am a
> > Son 
> > of God.  I was going to say
> > “just as 
> > you are” but I recognize your resistance to the
> > comparison.  I am a descending son and you are
> > an 
> > ascending son and so technically there is a difference
> but
> > really, daughter, 
> > there is not much difference in the overall.  It’s
> as if I were Italian and you
> > were 
> > Spanish.  We are still both sons
> > of 
> > God.  
> >   
> > Gerdean: 
> >  Peculiar analogy, 
> > Monjoronson.
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  Over simplified, yes, but I don’t
> > see 
> > the need to belabor my point. 
> > You 
> > know what I am telling you.  
> > 
> >   
> > Gerdean:  I do, but I can’t … “grok”
> > it.  Michael, our Michael Son, I have an
> > 
> > understanding of who he is. I am connected to him
> through
> > my Thought 
> > Adjuster.  He says “He who has
> > seen 
> > me has seen the Father” but you cannot say that. 
> You can say … “He who has seen
> > me has 
> > seen the Son” but you know how difficult it is for
> us
> > mortals to perceive the 
> > Eternal Son.  We don’t
> > “grok” 
> > Eternal Son.  We grok Father and
> > 
> > Creator Son, and more specifically, we, or at least I,
> I
> > grok the Creator Son 
> > because he came here and lived among us, on this very
> > planet, and so I know him 
> > as a peer, as a fellow, as a brother, an elder
> brother,
> > even though I know he is 
> > also a representation of Our Father.  
> > He did say, “I and my Father are One.”  And some
> days I think I can almost
> > feel 
> > that myself.  But I don’t know
> > how 
> > to feel you.  I don’t know where in my energy
> > system 
> > you fit, or how I should grok your presence.  Even
> your intellectually aspects
> > are 
> > eluding me because I can’t discern what you are
> here
> > for.  You are not on a bestowal
> > mission.  How can we know what kind of
> > magisterial 
> > mission you might be on.  It
> > doesn’t 
> > compute and it makes me very uncomfortable to even 
> pretend to think I might know
> > what’s 
> > going on.  
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  Yes, well.  I appreciate what you are
> > saying.  I appreciate your being so
> > forthright 
> > with me.  And again, I must say,
> > it 
> > is not necessary for you to know me.  
> > But you know from your experiences with other
> > invisible beings, other 
> > celestial helpers, that we become more meaningful to
> you as
> > you spend time with 
> > us.  This is a cordial
> > conversation 
> > we are having, is it not?
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Yes, it is.  Thank you.
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  And so we could carry on this
> > degree of 
> > conversation at length and at will without disturbing
> our
> > equilibrium or 
> > detracting from your faith in Michael or any of the
> other
> > energy systems that 
> > impact on your psyche. 
> > Couldn’t 
> > we?
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Yes, I suppose we could, but I
> > don’t 
> > know what it is for.
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  You are so purposive!  Such a
> worker!  So methodical!  Whatever happened to that adage
> that
> > 
> > friendship is an end in itself?  
> > Can’t we just be friends?
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Well, since you mentioned it that
> > is 
> > another thing that has been bugging me.  
> > Why would a Magisterial Son, who has important work
> > to do in the 
> > universe, on high levels of authority and
> administration,
> > be engaging in 
> > chit-chat with lowly mortals such as myself?  I have
> no ego for such a
> > thing.  It … doesn’t make sense to 
> > me.
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  Again, your cognizance is
> > involved.  Now, don’t get me wrong! I
> > appreciate 
> > that you use your mind!  So many
> > 
> > mortals do NOT use their mind, they do NOT think,
> they
> > simply feel and react to 
> > their feelings, and this makes it extremely difficult
> to
> > get things 
> > accomplished.  It makes it
> > virtually 
> > impossible for teamwork to take place because …
> well,
> > because, frankly, there is 
> > so much distrust and that is because people don’t
> think
> > enough to ask 
> > questions.  Asking questions is
> > like 
> > putting your cards on the table.  
> > You can see what you have to deal with.  It is like
> counting the cost.  So many people want to think
> > everything 
> > is fine and God will take care of them therefore they
> need
> > not factor in this or 
> > that, when in fact, it is essential that things be
> factored
> > into your strategy 
> > for living.  
> >   
> > Do you think Jesus came here and
> > lived and died without a 
> > strategy?  He strategized all
> > along 
> > the way, reflecting and perceiving with such a
> sensitivity
> > of the human 
> > condition it would make your head spin.  
> > He kept his own counsel, for the most part, and so
> > you are not privy to 
> > the many ways he strategized, but oh, he did.  He was
> a deep thinker.  He went off alone often to think,
> > and to 
> > talk things over with his Father.  
> > Do you think he just went off to receive guidance
> > without having any idea 
> > of what he was seeking guidance for?  
> > Of course he knew.  He
> > had 
> > foresight.  So many people do
> > not 
> > have foresight.  They are afraid
> > of 
> > insight - their own insight or the insight of
> others.  And this is true liberation - to be
> > able 
> > to see with eyes to see and hear with ears to hear. 
> It does not require political 
> > correctness or social nicety, it requires mental
> acuity,
> > and you have that, 
> > Gerdean.  You have it but you
> > don’t 
> > know how to use it.  I could
> > help 
> > you learn how to use it, if you would let me.
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Now you are appealing to me, 
> > Monjoronson.  
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  Aha!  And I see we are on a first
> name
> > basis 
> > already!
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Well, let’s just say we are
> > getting 
> > acquainted.  Perhaps we could
> > take 
> > up this conversation again at another time.  After I
> have had a chance to review
> > what 
> > you have said and how I feel about the responses and
> the
> > …
> >   
> > MONJORONSON:  Rappoir?
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Yes.  The rapport we have
> > established.  [Long pause]
> >   
> > SERENA:  This is Monjoronson’s Chief of 
> > Staff.  His partner, his
> > mate.  In time I would like to make use of you, 
> > Gerdean.  You have already done
> > much 
> > work on behalf of up-stepping the collective
> consciousness,
> > particularly in your 
> > concepts of socio-spiritual adventures in living.  I
> see I have made you uncomfortable
> > 
> > already, by acknowledging your contribution to
> > humanity.  You think I am appealing to your
> > ego and 
> > so you reject me.  How pathetic
> > you 
> > mortals can be.  We are trying
> > to 
> > uplift you, not shame you, but you are so ingrained in
> the
> > ways of your legacy 
> > here it is an uphill struggle to get you to see our
> way
> > clear.  But you will.  We have faith in you.  I
> will help you with that,
> > too.  Be of good cheer.  It isn’t all work; there
> is a
> > great deal 
> > of rejoicing and feeling the satisfactions of
> attainment as
> > we advance.  Don’t be
> > afraid.
> >   
> > MERIUM:  And now this is Merium.  Thank you,
> Gerdean, for your
> > focus.  I am sure we will all be titillated
> > to 
> > review this morsel of contact. 
> > You 
> > didn’t ask him half the questions you wanted
> > to.
> >   
> > Gerdean:  I will.  Given the chance, I am sure he
> will
> > let 
> > me.
> >   
> > MERIUM:  Now you’ve got it.  Rest easy.  It will
> be a wonderful
> > Conference.  Just relax and let the universe
> > unfold 
> > before you.  You have lots of 
> > help.  Be of good 
> > cheer.
> >   
> > Gerdean:  Good night
> > Merium.
> >   
> > MERIUM:  
> > Bye-bye. 
> > 
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