[tmtranscripts] 12-12-02 Rio Rancho NM TeaM

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Date:  December 12, 2002
Location:  Albuquerque, NM USA (Carl and Janet's home)
Teachers:  Tomas and Onamonalonton 
Topics: Conscious Listening: The Stillness - Hearing the Great Spirit
        How to place yourself in God's Time
        Discernment -- Listening for the Harmonics
        Being Child-like  -- Your Child-of-Godness
        Give yourself to others as the Gift-Giver gave to us all
T/R: Gerdean
Music:  "What Child is This?"
Pianist: Elena 

TOMAS:  Good afternoon. I am Tomas, your host, humble students and teachers, 
all, for I have with me today many associates, possible guests. Anatolia is 
flanking me as associate teacher, and our hearts greet you and go out to also 
greet all of those in this extended family, those who are attendees in person 
and those who attend ever and only in our spirit of communion as we gather 
together in appreciation of our mutual Sonship.

I greet you in the wake of the Master's meaningful moment with you last week, 
which we have discussed in our ranks, as we Teachers are also Students. We 
also gather round the campfire of experiential living to hear from the 
Master, his perspective, for in this we gain the advantage of his knowledge 
of you insofar as he is also familiar with your world. 

You who heard him discuss the Darkness and the Light as ALL under his 
control, over-control, were privy to the perspective of the Creator Son. That 
is a perspective that we in the Teacher Corps do not have and which we also 
benefit from.  Thus, in the wake of his words, we reunite in enthusiasm to 
forge ahead in our curriculum of learning, 

"What Child is This?"  This child is Onamonalonton.  Perhaps you will enjoy 
associating with him for a moment.  I will let him tell you about himself. He 
is one of our guests. One moment, please.

ONAMONALONTON:  Greetings.  I will step down from my place in the Council of 
24 to join with you today to provide a perspective which comes from my having 
been a walker on this world once, as well.  I was of the red race. I retain 
many racial qualities, which I will not relinquish before my time.  Why would 
I want to relinquish that which has such bearing on my character and the 
quality of my Being?

One of the many gifts I was able to give to my people was the gift of 
Conscious Listening.  What enabled me to cause a race of people to Listen 
within themselves to Hear the Great Spirit, was a gift to me, as well.  For 
that I have no explanation.  However, it seemed to be time for my people to 
begin the undertaking of the Awareness of the Great Spirit, which then added 
to our character as a race of people, to give us a perspective of the energy 
at work in the atmosphere, which is filled with the information that is given 
to those who will Listen.

The Gift of Listening is not done with the ears. Ears are the proboscis, that 
which sticks out, the obvious. But the Art of Listening, the Gift of Hearing 
the Voice of God, that is not in the 'ear' as much as it is in the Essence of 
existence.  

In this room, now, you can hear clocks ticking. They are marking time, in the 
material sense, and they are as 'music,' inasmuch as they indicate to you 
that you are a part of the Heartbeat of life.  They remind you, as does the 
beating heart, that you are a part of Creation; that you Live.  But they 
cannot capture the quality of life that goes beyond the dimension of that 
which you can see and hear and feel with the senses, the Gifts which we know 
well up from an Invisible Source.  

When you learn to Listen, you Listen with the physical as well as with the 
Invisible. You can see beyond the obvious to the subtle.  You begin to trust 
that which you cannot see and hear, more than that which you can see with 
your eyes and ears.  This perception of the Great Spirit is a part of the 
relationship which I shared with my people and which you are only beginning 
to understand, you people of the modern world.

Are there questions of me, inasmuch as I am here?

Elena:  You speak beautifully.  How did you bring your people to listen? Did 
it take your entire lifetime or were they more open to it at that time?

ONAMONALONTON:  I was fortunate, as you are fortunate, to be alive at a time 
in the development of racial evolution that put me in a position to be able 
to act upon the circumstances that were there.  I was in the right place at 
the right time, like you and your self-revelations. Shall we call them 
'ideas?' Like Jesus, who had insights about a Greater Reality than he saw as 
he stood looking at the city of Jerusalem, I was given a 'glimpse,' and I 
acted on the "spirit prompts" as I saw them appear. I acted on Faith.  I did 
not know I was a 'religious leader' any more than you know that you are a 
'religious leader.'  

The people of my time were ready, for they were indeed barbaric and 
insensitive in many ways, but there were enough incidences of animalistic 
behavior that caused my fellows to 'feel' something.  As a result of the 
battles they'd fought together, the camaraderie they had experienced, then to 
see them die in battle, gave a sense of predestined urgency to 'find another 
way' to live.

In this rather subconscious state of yearning they were vulnerable to 
influence. Much of the influence was from the Dark side, the bellicose, that 
provoked them into further animalistic and destructive behavior, but I 
persisted in putting forth that which was a part of my 'visions,' my 
perspectives -- the revelations that were provided to me by Power greater 
than myself. I talked aloud about these things. I appealed to their heart. I 
spoke about their friends who had been lost and about the quality of 
friendship that was Noble and the incidents which I saw as having reflected 
Character. I exalted these emotions.

I did not show respect for those who refused to follow me, or hear me. And, 
while it took time, there came to be a following and we became a Conscious 
Force. We bonded. We banded. We upheld one another much as you are doing 
today in your new Dispensation, your New Age, this Fifth Epoch.  

We learned to Listen and we became more than we were. Our ways changed. And 
while there were, and remain, those who will not Listen, those who would 
rather "fight than switch," we endure because of our Value, and we augment 
our Value by Listening.

I smile and say to you that we have been practicing The Stillness for a long 
time.  We sometimes find the raucousness of your culture to be hostile to the 
Spirit for it fills up all the atmosphere with Chaos, which disallows the 
Harmony of the Universe to penetrate into your Soul, into your Heart, into 
what will be your Family and your Home, if you will Listen.

Paula:  What era are you describing?  What years were these?

ONAMONALONTON:  These were pre-history.  Well before Genesis. Certainly 
before Moses. Back when we were tribal.

Elena:  Did Machiventa visit you?  Like he did Abraham?

ONAMONALONTON:  We were far more primitive than the noble Abraham. We are a 
very old race of people.

Elena:  What's the Council of 24?

ONAMONALONTON:  We are holding forth as a Governing body in Jerusem, which is 
the Capitol of your System.  When you go through all the Mansion Worlds you 
will 'graduate' from the System at its Capitol, which is Jerusem.  I share 
this honor (serving on the Council) with many, and most are from Urantia. 

We are naturally focused on what is transpiring on Urantia, your world, 
because of its situation in the Rebellion, how it was quarantined, set-aside, 
set-apart, how it was visited by Jesus, the Creator of our Local Universe and 
now is being re-encircuited into the Constellation Fields as a result of the 
adjudication of the Lucifer rebellion, which occurred when Jesus was here.  
While 2000 years may seem a long time to you, in terms of those of us who 
have been around for thousands upon thousands of years - it is … 2 weeks!  
But you may be assured that one of the Laws of the Universe is Cause and 
Effect. This is what Christ Michael spoke of last week: Cause and Effect, 
basically.  You would say 'what goes up must come down.' What is begun must 
be ended, must be resolved, must come to fruition.  

What you begin in Time will be finished in Eternity, and whether it is 
contributing to the OverAll or, rather, an attempt to deter development, is 
something which will only be revealed in Time.  And once again, I remind you 
of the Value of Listening for in learning to Listen and … really 
understanding what The Stillness is, you will be able to discern what time it 
is in God's Time. You will be able to read the Great Spirit for the 
circumstances and conditions in which you can, and may, operate in affecting 
the growth of the Supreme Being by your actions, your will.



You are a significant influence in the Galaxy, even as you find yourselves a 
mote of Stardust.



Men-o-pah carries with him the blood of our ancestors.  In him is a glimpse 
of our racial memory. Within him resides a composition of cellular structure 
which is unknown to you of the Blue race.  Or of other races.  However, the 
part of you, Men-o-pah, which is of the red race and the red man's 
composition, is so few as to diffuse the spectrum which was with us when I 
was one of you.

There are no pure races today in your world. But when I lived here, we were 
pure races. We were definitely 'different.' You now, who think you are 
'different' - yellow, red, black and white - are nothing, in terms of 
'difference,' to what we knew when we were born.  What you have now is a very 
cosmopolitan admixture of race, which has still a long way to go before it is 
completely amalgamated into the quality of Human Race which was intended in 
the original Master Plan.

But, you see, with all of the exceptions-to-the-rule, which you are here on 
Urantia, which you represent to the Greater neighborhood of Cosmic Citizens, 
you and I depict an element of reality which is noteworthy in the development 
of evolving worlds.  And thus we are privileged to have and share this unique 
experience of being from this most extraordinary world.

Let me return you to Tomas, with whom you are familiar. I will visit again at 
some time, as this culture is a potential gold mine of students of Greater 
Realities for which I will work on behalf of your mission, to accomplish.

Farewell.

Paula:  Before you leave, two questions.  One, when you were with us, what 
part of today's world did you live in?

ONAMONALONTON:  No part.  I lived so many thousands of years ago, I have no 
experience in this modern world at all.  I have been busy all this time, in 
fact, ascending through the Mansion Worlds and serving in Jerusem.  And so, 
much of your development I was not even aware of. Let me try to give you an 
example, Paula, of what I mean.  

Let us take a television program that has been on the television for 20 
years. Was there a program in your frame of reference that is on today that 
was on 20 years ago?  Or perhaps a movie star that you admired 20 years ago 
who is still acting today. Let us say you were quite close to that reality 20 
years ago but for some reason you were distracted from watching the program 
or knowing  intimately the career or changes that have gone about, but you 
turned on the TV yesterday, or this morning, and saw how they had developed , 
or how they had aged.  This would be like my experience with Urantia.  

At one time I knew it as a reality and I turned my back for a few years to do 
something else and when I turned around to look again it was completely 
changed.  It was still Urantia, and there were flavors of it that still 
existed but it was nothing compared to the way it was. For example, today it 
is in Technicolor. In my day, it was in black and white.

Does that help you understand?

Paula:  Yes.  And the other question is, what is it like where you are now?

ONAMONALONTON:  Well, very astute question.  The fact is, it would be very 
difficult for me to convey to you what it is like where I am now for you have 
no frame of reference for it, and even your entertainment depictions are not 
capable of picking up the environment in which I work and exist at this time.

It would be, for me, a work of fiction to portray to you, so that you could 
understand, what my living circumstances are like today.  I will tell you, 
though, for relationship sake, I have friends and associates. While I do not 
have what you would call 'family,' I have the realization that those with 
which I work and associate are also my 'family.'  We rest but we do not 
sleep.  We take in energy but we do not eat food.  We are surrounded by 
stimuli but it is not sentient. We read but we do not have books. 

We learn but with a different mind. While it is not all-pervasive, it is 
quite extensive.  What I'll ask you to do now is look at a system of 
monitoring, such as you might find in a major hotel, where there is a room in 
which 20 television screens monitor what is going on in all the hallways and 
entrances.  This is a very crude depiction of what it is like to see from my 
vision, for I can 'look in on you' through my 'monitor.' And that means, 
literally, millions of personalities -- though I don't normally occupy myself 
by peering into your lives.

We could go on for hours about how it is in my world, but I am more 
interested in your world, for you are the one who lives it and you are the 
one before me. I've been invited here to talk to you about Listening and that 
is what I have done. I am glad that you have 'heard' so much of what I have 
to say. 

In that light, I will add one more thing before I go, and that has to do with 
Discernment. For in Listening you can Discern the Harmonics of the reality 
which is presenting itself. With that ability, you will be able to Discern 
with the Spirit of Truth. You will know how to avoid deception. You will hear 
the cacophony of chaos and refuse to budge, until such time as the Way is 
Clear and the Music of the Spheres fills you with that Clarity which invites 
you  forward.  There is Value to what might appear to be stubbornness. But 
when your very existence is at stake, you will Be Still and Listen. Because 
your Life depends upon it.  With that I take my leave.

Group:  Thank you!
Paula:  That was so interesting!  I wish he could go on some more.

TOMAS:   Tomas, resuming the podium.  What a variety of personalities the 
Father provides within his family of Sons and Daughters!  What abundance is 
there for the taking!  What have you been up to?  Have you been about the 
Father's business?  Have you been growing? Have you had conflicts? Is there 
something to celebrate? Please, be open with me.

Esmarelda:  I've been fortunate for this past week, six days, I guess.  Five 
or six days, taking a delightful little girl to school because her 
grandmother has been out of town and her mother works….and it has been a joy 
to be around such a delightful little girl.  So that is something that has 
been different and quite a blessing for me this week.

TOMAS:  "What Child is This?"  What constitutes childlikeness? What makes a 
child delightful?  What gift do children bring that they remind us of the 
trusting qualities of Sonship?  How do they refresh our perception with their 
wide-eyed wonder at what is unfolding before them. How precious to see the 
Innocents who have an eternal frame of reference, who have not stumbled over 
the realms of birth and death to the extent they have lost their exuberance 
for what is next.

Let us go around the room, then, and take a look at yourself and your 
neighbor, how it is that they reflect such a quality of childlikeness?  
Thoroah, you were thinking these very thoughts earlier today. What about you 
is childlike?

Thoroah:  I…



Paula:   I think my faith is childlike because I've always believed, just as 
I was taught as a small child, that when our time on earth is done -- the 
body, of course, just goes to nothing but dust, but that part isn't 
important. -- what I believe, and always will believe, is that your soul goes 
to the Heaven that Jesus told us about when he said "I go to prepare a place 
for you.  In my Father's house are many mansions."  And I believe that 
although the body dies the soul lives on forever and it must go somewhere, … 
to heaven - or wherever it is that God is waiting for us.  Am I right?

TOMAS:  Yes. This is correct.

This is a child, indeed.  Have I not said so before?  She sits on my lap and 
insists upon my attention. 

Paula:  I guess you're right.

TOMAS:  She has that quality of self-centeredness that precocious children 
have, which is entertaining and which diverts the mature mind from its 
incessant musing. Therefor, Paula has contributed to our discussion that 
children are distracting.  And pleasingly so.  

It is the child-ISH-ness which gets them in trouble, as it gets you in 
trouble, all of you.  Childishness is a different quality than 
child-LIKE-ness.  Childishness is petulance that always wants its own way and 
always wants to be the center of attention. It always wants to go first, be 
first, and be unmindful of others, as compared to child-LIKE-ness which will 
portray the Goodness of the child which loves to serve, which will take the 
plate of cookies around to each person at the party and curtsey in delight to 
play the role of Giver. Precocious student, is our Paula. 

But Thoroah, you were saying?

Thoroah:  I still look at the Universe as I did when I was young - I've only 
added another dimension to the Universe by becoming older, but - I can 
remember looking out, as a walker on this planet, wondering about the 
Universe - and that wonderment is still there.  There's a lot of 'musing' 
going along with it but the wonderment is still there.  That's probably my 
most  child-LIKE-ness quality. I have a lot of child-ISH qualities, too.

TOMAS:  You feel your childlikeness, your sense of Wonder, is endearing.  
Good.  Let us not focus on the branches you will prune in your own good time.

Men-o-pah, how do you feel you are like the child?

Men-o-pah:  I was interested to hear our visitor, before the time before 
Abraham.  It reminded me of my roots.  I neglected to hear his name.

TOMAS:  He is Onamonalonton, the Entity I promised to bring to speak to you 
about his Gifts. 

Men-o-pah:  Thank you. I was interested to hear him talking about his music 
that we will hear.  That music of discernment.
 
TOMAS: I had a hunch you would enjoy him.

Men-o-pah:  I do that, too, and I was interested to hear he had to say, that 
we may hear the music of the Spirit of Truth.  We will know the Way, then.  

TOMAS:  You will see, then, your childlike faith that the Path will be 
revealed. The Music will lead you, like the Pied Piper led the children from 
the village.  The quality of discernment, yes, will enable you to 'hear' the 
'music.'

Men-o-pah:  Thank you. I'm looking forward to that.

TOMAS:  You may be assured you will not be disappointed.

Men-o-pah:  Thank you.

TOMAS:  You see this child that you travel with, Esmarelda, and she delights 
you, for you say you have had your life 'lit up' now for 6 days because of 
her association.  What does she reveal to you of yourself that you have 
forgotten?

Esmarelda:  She has a different life than I.  She is a very loved little girl 
and she knows that she is. She's confident.  She's curious. She's eager to 
learn.  I think a lot  of those things, or some of those things were present 
in my childhood, however I was not as confident. I didn't feel as loved as a 
child.  But the eagerness - wanting to learn and to be close to people  One 
thing, too, she's very concerned about a pet of hers that had been ill and I 
think the love of God's creatures - that was something I really enjoyed.  I 
think all children love pets and animals.  So maybe that was the part of my 
childlike past that I identify with.

TOMAS:  Children are 'little animals'.. (laughter)…and the qualities of 
Wisdom and Worship are fostered through further experience. 



The reflection on your childhood this child gives, causes me to remind you  
that your mortal life may have had denser origin but your Spiritual Childhood 
is replete with Knowing you are Loved and in this you may feel Confident. And 
thus you will be able to develop the quality that Thoroah enjoys, that 
adventurousness and sense of wonder that you see in the little girl that you 
transport. The world is changed from the time you were a child and there is 
more Light in the ethers today than there was in your childhood. Thus, your 
observation is correct. 

The truth of the matter is, you are never too old to be a child.  And it's 
never too late to have a happy childhood.

The relationship you enjoy with the Eternal parents will give you the 
assurance that will also provide for you the ability to discern the Music of 
the Spheres as you avoid the chaos.  It will entitle you to the 
precociousness that we enjoy with Paula. 

The recognition that we are here to help you learn to become spiritual adults 
in no way precludes the necessity of you remaining a child. For Eternity is a 
long time. And like you were told, perhaps when you were adolescent, 
appreciate your being a child for as long as you can for when you are grown 
up the responsibilities of maturity will press upon you.  And it behooves you 
to remember how to be a Child, even as you learn to walk the Path of 
Adulthood.

But Elena, how have we enjoyed your childlikeness?

Elena:  Was that a comment or a question?   (some laughter)

TOMAS:  In this case it is a question but if I had inserted an exclamation 
point it would have been an assertion of our receipt of your gifts, yes.

Elena:  Thank you. Well, the talk about childlikeness was interesting and 
sweet. But how do I maintain my childlikeness…I think in the things that I do 
is that I can still get the same joy about most things that I'm excited about 
as it was right before getting up Christmas morning….there's  that little 
glee that just builds up in my throat. And it's not hard for me to get there 
- nor is it hard to get away from it either…but I think is the best way for 
me to answer the question of how I am childlike.



TOMAS:  You appreciate the gift of Joy within you as a quality of 
Child-of-God that you enjoy. Yes. You are precise there. You are a joyous 
child, indeed, and your Joy is contagious.  And this is a part of your Power 
and the Power of children, their easy laughter and their delight with the 
ludicrous, the ability to make monkey-shines of the burdens of existence and 
to alleviate the burdens of others by turning them topsy-turvy. This is the 
Gift you give to your friends. 

All of you give Gifts of Yourself when you express your childlike qualities, 
your Child-of-Godness.

Gerdean, what do you regard as your blatant childlike quality?

Gerdean:   I don't think my childlike quality's all that special, Tomas.  I 
think I'm jealous, I want the center of attention.  I think I'm more 
child-ISH than I am child-LIKE, to tell you the truth.  But I'm not fishing 
for compliments here!! (laughter)  I think that my ability to Jabber is my 
favorite childlike quality. (more giggles in group)

TOMAS:  It works for me. It is a key to the overtures of our efforts to 
reveal the Word of God as it will emit from your warbles. When there is a 
tight grip on your lip you censor yourself, sometimes suffocating yourself, 
to disallow the Lightness of Being.  The Bird does not put a clamp on its 
bill, except when and as, it is 'stilled' by that which alarms it into 
silence. As you jabber you reflect your Warbling Happiness, much as Elena 
expresses her Joy in encountering the Essence of others.

In this Season of Giving, remember the Gifts you give - the Gifts of Joy, of 
Adventure, of Discernment, of Inquiry, of Reflection, of Wonder.  All these 
Gifts from the Divine are Gifts you give  --  as a Child of the Divine. As a 
reflection of your Eternal Parents in their Gift of Life to you.

What child is this?  Show me your Gifts, that I may give glory and homage to 
the Father, Gift-Giver to us all.

Be on your way, then, children, and relish your moment in time as 
Onamonalonton relished his and IMPACT humanity by your Personality Presence.

Farewell.



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