[tmtranscripts] SPOKANE TEACHER BASE 12/02/00

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DATE: December 2, 2000
LOCATION: Spokane, Washington
TEACHER: TOMAS & ONAMONALONTON
TOPIC: CO-CREATION
T/R: Gerdean

TOMAS: Good afternoon, my faithful friends.  I am Tomas your teacher, your 
friend, your companion and your host for this afternoon.  How good it is to 
be with you again in our customary configuration and to broach areas of 
interest, in making inroads into a greater understanding of what it means to 
be a part of the living organism of the spiritual universe and the subsequent 
parallel life you live, in the more physical parallel universe you call home.

Let's talk today a little bit about co-creation.  That's a big concept.  
Let's take other "co" words: co-operate; co-ordinate; co-mingle.  (Pause)  
Community.  Joined.  Working together in concert.  Marriages are like that.  
Partnerships demonstrate co-operative values.  But being co-creative with God 
has sent many into a quandary of imbalance because it is inconceivable to be 
able to work on a par with that which we acknowledge as the First Source of 
all that is.

How presumptuous it would seem of us to even consider that it would be 
possible that we could in some way be co-creative, and yet it is not only 
possible, it is presumed desirable from our vantage point, for without your 
cooperation in what would be considered as God's will, you will not be making 
your experience your own.  You will not be aware of your experience; you will 
not be able to contribute to the experience of others in terms of 
God-consciousness or universe reality.  You therefore must assume in the 
beginning that you are born of the spirit and thus are God-knowing and 
spirit-led and in that context, in that framework then, you are able to 
realize your part, your contribution, and realize also the perspective that 
warrants.  

The cooperation I receive in my teaching efforts in this era, in being 
contemporaries with many other conjoint personalities in the advancement of 
Urantia has brought me into company with many wonderful beings and today we 
are pleased to have with us the elder and teacher of the red race 
Onamonalonton.  Onamonalonton, as you know, also serves on the Council of 24. 
 And with co-ordination from his fellow Council members, he and others have 
walked upon Urantia and are even now involved in efforts to re-encircuit and 
re-establish your world in terms of its potential, given our ideals and the 
peculiar vagaries under which we struggle.  One moment, please.

ONAMONALONTON: Way back in time, yes.  Way back in time.  You are bringing 
with you much history when you bring me into your awareness.  I am 
Onamonalonton.  I am one with you.  We work conjointly for the sphere of 
light beleaguered but not lost because of the many efforts of the many 
strugglers for the valiant Michael and his domain.  When the light of God 
indwells and touches the heart of man, he in turn has no choice but to 
reflect that divinity in and through his actions as a law of the universe, 
the law of cause and effect.  In this way you too can co-operate with 
divinity and co-create in your realm.  
And your efforts are commingled with my efforts and the efforts of the many 
who will not fail, will not relent, will not relinquish our hold on our world 
of origin.  We have been offered the opportunity to advance, to relinquish 
our post and we have declined the offer in anticipation of a hurdle being 
accomplished in such a fashion as to afford us no doubt, no concern.  And so 
you see why we are here, why we remain.  We are intent on assimilating all 
that we can into a cogent force for eternal good that will be a faithful 
portrayal of our appreciation for our Master Son and his mercy, compassion, 
diligence, devotion, dedication and obedience to that which we hold to be 
worthy of the worship of everyone - indeed, God himself.  

I wanted to mention to you today about the parallel universes spoken of 
earlier.  There is a tradition among the people - not only the red man, but 
the people of earth - who make spiritual pilgrimages to physical places for 
healing, for an acknowledgment of a sacred purpose.  Many of you recognize 
our sacred stones who weep or holy waters that heal.  There is no point to 
attempt to convince anyone that the miracle is not in the water, in the 
physical world itself, even though many of you realize that the reality is 
non-physical, is spiritual in origin.  But the belief of the loyal follower 
will not see God as separate from anything, including fire, water, air.  

To disdain a pure belief is to disdain God Himself.  To assure your brother 
you are his brother you will embrace him as your brother under that immovable 
Force which oversees all that is and all that we are.  But to acknowledge Him 
and say, "I do this," "I say that,"  "I go here,"  "I am that because of Him" 
is a man's personal religious sojourn into infinity. (Pause)  That will do.

TOMAS: Tomas again.  It seems I have a supporter in Onamonalonton in my 
discussion on co-creation.  Even though it is a reach for those of you who 
feel that you have found all the answers.  How can you possibly allow 
yourself to extend yourself into what you would regard as untruth?  Well, you 
cannot go there if your intention is to be destructive of one man's 
relationship with deity; but when you go with a mind to share sonship, 
without creedal differences coming between you, you are in a position then to 
be able to find a common ground upon which to stand to worship that God that 
you both adore, and in that camaraderie you are able to feel the foundation 
of a friendship that might endure for an eternity.  

This is co-creating, my friends.  This is co-creating a connection of divine 
goodness that connects you with your brother, and that connects you both with 
the original Creator.  In this way you co-create peace, bounty, beauty, 
co-operation, co-ordination, community.  See this world as a perfect 
reflection of the Paradise pattern, destined to be yours, to be your world's, 
and one day you will realize there is no difference between the spiritual and 
he physical for they are all co-ordinated and reflected as an aspect of 
perfection, even into the worlds of time and space.  It begins in your heart 
and in your life.  It begins in your relationships with others.  It begins by 
putting down your swords and your defenses.  By setting aside your animal 
tendencies to compete and win and your human propensity to seek for status 
and approval.  In attempting to maneuver your position in the kingdom, allow 
our governors in their realms to administer the kingdoms.  Learn to be 
co-operative in the little things and the big things will thus be provided.

Dear children, have you questions for us today, or any commentary to share 
with the group?

GERDEAN: Well, Tomas, we have some genealogy questions here, I think you 
could call it.  We were wondering about whether or not Onamonalonton was 
before or after the arrival of the secondary midwayers.  I'm certain that the 
primary midwayers were around during the time of Onamonalonton, and you can 
understand that I myself am reluctant to ask because if you tell me something 
and I transmit it and it's a mistake, I will feel like I have made a fool of 
myself and of you to all the people that read your lessons.  So this gets 
back to why we don't ask questions many times, (not because of being a T/R, 
but) because we're inclined to make ourselves look foolish, or that which we 
believe in to be error and we don't want to do that.  So we just sit here 
looking dumb.  (Laughter) We... I ... we... 

I don't know whether you want to discuss that or not, but we have a lot of 
questions, Tomas.  We have a lot of questions about our planetary government, 
about our history, about what the midwayers have experienced, how they can be 
helpful to us, how we can work better with them, and I have to say, in 
fairness, there are people who think that the midwayers are virtually a myth 
and a detraction from the important stuff which is our relationship with our 
Thought Adjuster and all this is diversionary tactics.  So we have a whole 
bunch of questions and none of them are really well formulated.  

Some have been formulated and presented and we don't know if we're supposed 
to ask curiosity questions or not.  Sometimes I think that we get the message 
that curiosity questions are beneath your expectations, and then we get words 
like Onamonalonton just said, "Hey, you are perceiving reality as a shadow of 
Reality" and so what difference does it make?  We aren't supposed to be 
superior about our belief systems.  So I don't know what I'm saying, but I 
guess we are asking for a little clarification of something to focus on.

TOMAS: Alright.  I will acknowledge the strata inherent in your question, 
your outpouring, and reveal to you the multi-layered relativity inherent in 
what you said.  You are/were speaking for a lot of people and it's not called 
upon for you to speak for a lot of people.  If you have a question, it is 
your question that I will hear.  Or, if a question is submitted, I can 
entertain a question that is submitted by another, but I like to hear it in 
their own words.  In that way these conversations are kept personal, and even 
though it is true that supreme truth is unchanging, there are relative levels 
of truth that must suffice as scaffolding en route to ultimate truth.  

I know you remember our analogy of the classroom and that one in kindergarten 
cannot under-stand what one in fourth grade will assimilate, and so on up the 
ladder of awareness.  And yes, I can certainly understand how it is that you 
would all begin to be conscious of the personalizing effects of understanding 
a relationship to the universe that you did not have before you under-stood 
that you had relatives throughout the cosmos.  Your isolation has kept your 
mind within a bit of a bubble, which would affect your thinking only insofar 
as you were able to relate to your world, but you world is enhanced, and 
suddenly you have a relationship, or a potential relationship, with many 
personalities, many of whom are eager to get to know you better and you are 
not accustomed to socializing yourselves with yourselves yet, much less with 
other "outside" and invisible entities.  

Even so, it is apparent to those of you who have known us for awhile that 
relationship develops and personalities become apparent and therefore these 
once invisible personalities begin to have an energy pattern that is 
distinctly recognizable.  These are tying in with your truths that you have 
learned through your study of the Urantia text as well as your many 
experiences in longevity.  Real kindred spirits recognize each other over the 
course of time and not only once.  You will have yet more questions than the 
ones that stagger you now, and this is why you are encouraged to think 
through your questions carefully and allow the responses time to be 
assimilated into your growing consciousness.  

You will find we are happy to be of service in conveying information to you 
that will be beneficial to your development, but we are also mindful of the 
importance of slow and steady growth, in that, over-rapid growth can be 
suicidal.  So we want to spoon feed you when necessary and we also want to 
pile your plate high when you are able to digest greater morsels.  For the 
moment, however, you are cherished because of your willingness to extend your 
limits of understanding beyond that which is singularly egocentric in nature. 
 

Sometimes you will think of a question that has not dawned on you to ask 
before, but by looking carefully at your question, you can almost determine 
for yourself what would be true if you returned to your textbook and studied 
the history and certain facts as they have been set out already.  We are 
eager to engage with you but we are not willing to do your homework for you.  
You had words last week from my co-worker Paulo to the effect that we will be 
patient but we will not be indulgent.  And your question, Gerdean, appears to 
ask for our patience while not being willing to appear indulged.  How is your 
spiritual life?

GERDEAN: Thank you.  It's very good.  I think ... I have a wonderful 
spiritual life.  I'm able to make sense of my human life because of my 
spiritual life, and I like the prioritizing that goes on in my mind.  

TOMAS: I am aware of your gratitude and your courage.  Are there other 
matters or questions at hand in this arena?  (No) 

I wish you would not feel overwhelmed with all the possibilities.  The 
possibilities are endless, and you are only starting out.  This is not to say 
that you are belittled by any means, because as sons of God you are ennobled 
by being.  We take great pride and pleasure in working with you and seeing 
you attain to new levels of understanding and capacity.  As your friend and 
companion, I am continuously appreciative of the motives which appear to be 
your wellspring.  Proceed in your faith path.  Be of good cheer.  Good 
tidings to you all.  Farewell.