Pocatello Transcript 9-25-98

[Bill Kelly]

September 25, 1998

Business
Sharing and Prayer

Daniel (BobS):  My greetings to all of those here gathered.  This is Daniel.
My thanks to all of you who have made the effort to attend our meeting here
tonight.  I especially am heartfelt to those who, at some sacrifice, work
this into their schedules.  The evening we have planned for you tonight we
hope and pray will be a significant spiritual growth factor, for that is
what we are about, as your teachers, to assist you to grow spiritually.  Now
with these words of introduction, I turn the microphone over to Aaron.

Aaron:  Greetings, friends.  This is Aaron.  Tonight it is our pleasure to
rally the troops and to perhaps inspire each of you to the opportunity of
vocalizing the insights coming to you.  Recognize that perfection is
attained through eons of imperfection, trial and error, effort.  Therefore
we encourage you to apply yourselves toward this opportunity to engage
material with spiritual through the realm of mind in an effort to produce a
beneficial result of spiritual outpouring that may enlighten your fellows
and produce a sense of growth even within yourselves. I will hang around and
be present, enjoying this opportunity to encourage you.  Thank you, friends.

Alkon (Bill/Isaac):  Good evening, my friends, I am Alkon, Isaac's personal
teacher.  This evening I have been included in the format in order to share
my concerns and wisdom.  I wish to emphasize the distinction between loving
the sinner and hating the sin.  This distinction is of great import, for it
is of the nature of Deity.  It is natural for you, as mortals, to think from
the outside in and to attribute to yourselves and your fellows motivations
which are directly connected with actions.  And depending on the degree of
evil, of error, or of sin in a person's actions, are they judged by their
fellows, and by themselves sometimes, as comprised of an evil or sinful self.  

Your culture has emphasized a false doctrine, the so-called "depravity of
mankind."  It has encouraged irresponsibility by declaring that the evil and
the error that you do is due to your nature, inherited from your progenitor,
Adam.  With this philosophic background, it is easy for everyone to accept
this false judgment and condemn themselves and others when their actions are
deemed to be in error or possibly even in sin.  We who are part of this
Teaching Corps have as one of our major objectives the disenfranchisement of
this intellectual fraud and spiritual poison from the culture of this
planet.  Therefore have we been teaching you that your nature is not
essentially evil, fallen, etc., but that there exists in your minds that
very fragment of Deity, your Thought Adjuster/Mystery Monitor.  I will not
reiterate all of this which you are already clear about.  

Now that you understand that your essential nature is good and not evil, how
then do you handle erroneous or sinful behavior in yourselves or others?
The free will of the personality is capable of making wrong choices.  Most
of the time these are made in ignorance, so we term them error or evil
rather than sin.  But there are those times when persons do deliberately
choose to do that which they know is the way of darkness - not God's will.,
and in rebellion against their maker.  Because your personalities are not
basically evil but are basically good, there is a slight weight given to the
altruistic, to the God-aligned choices by your
Indwelling Monitor and by the Spirit of Truth which pervades your soul as
well.  

Nevertheless, individuals being imperfect in this state and even in the
morontial state, continue to make errors.  The feeling of judgmental
rejection which you experience towards yourself and towards others is an
erroneous conclusion.  Firstly, the judgment is imperfect.  It is not your
job to make judgments, for you are an individual, and judgments are only
made by groups.  Secondly, you are erroneous when you reach these
conclusions for there is implied in such a notion the false doctrine of the
fallen and basically evil nature of men and women.  Remember our Master
loved Judas the betrayer.  He loved him because he was his child.  He loved
him because his personality was a gift of the Father of Personalities.  He
loved him and waited patiently in hopes that Judas would see the error of
his ways.  You have been told that Judas has now found, in the morontial
experience, his true path.  And though his name has been the source of great
consternation throughout the Universe of Nebadon, he is a reclaimed son.  

My friends, I share with you these things so that you may continue this
process of self- and other-forgiveness, and take it to the completion of
Supremacy.  You do well.  I am proud to be involved with mortals of such
high resolve, with such sincere dedication.  Thank you for your listening
ears and your open hearts.  

Minearisa (Cathy):  This is Minearisa.  I congratulate you on your heartfelt
exercise last week and, to continue with Alkon's presentation of defining
distinction between the sin and the sinner, I ask you to participate one
more time in an exercise.  

In your quiet time, as you dialog with celestials and your Heavenly Father
and Mother, you often ask for things such as, for example, "Please, God,
help me to have more patience, for I know I am not patient enough with
myself."  My point this evening is to get the point across that when you
make such a statement, what you affirm in your conscious, and more
importantly your subconscious existence, is that of lack.  I do not have
enough patience, I do not have enough love, I do not have enough tolerance.
So when you make these statements what you are doing is reinforcing in your
own consciousness the fact that you lack what it is that you desire the
most.  And by putting those thoughts into concrete ideation, you tend to
reinforce the fact that you lack them.  

An alternative approach is to give thanks for the tremendous strides you
have made in the areas of patience, love and tolerance.  To express in
gratitude that which you already have amplifies those qualities you wish to
have more of.  So tonight my assignment is to repeat last week's challenge,
but this time I would like for you to talk to that person who has wronged
you, or whom you have wronged, from a position of gratitude - from a
position of elevated spiritual consciousness.  For example, you would be
acting and reacting to that person from a more understanding level.  You
would be acting and reacting less out of fear, less out of ego-hurt, and
more from a position of understanding the intentionality of the other person
rather than your perception of the hurtful word or the hurtful deed.  I hope
this is clear.  I release this TR again to participate.  

Cathy:  I was really struggling to get that out.  Did that make sense?

BobS:  Yes.

Cathy:  I'll try it.  Mom, I know that you had a physical addiction to
cigarettes.  And all those times in the car when I was getting sick and you
were making fun of me for choking, I know that you didn't mean to do that,
and you didn't understand how much I hated it because it was something that
was pleasurable to you.  And you didn't understand that it made me gag and
made me worry about your health.  And I've also come to understand that the
addiction was one of the only ways that you could be you, that you were
unique and you were different.  You were the last of ten kids by a Baptist
preacher.  God knows you needed, in a socially-acceptable way, to say "Screw
you!"  And I think that was your way.  I still miss you and I'm still really
mad that you're not around to see your grand kids grow up, but that was your
choice.  And I respect that.  And I think if you had it to do over, you
might have hung around long enough to see me divorce the guy you really
hated.  I think you would have really enjoyed that.  I love you.  I'm done. 
 
BobD:  I know I'm sitting here trying to think how I'd go about saying what
I'd need to say.  It seems like I've already done this with the people I try
to think about someone that I haven't talked it out with in person.

Cathy:  It must be nice to be that perfect!

(laughter)

BobD:  Okay. Cathy
..   

(laughter)

The people that I've had issues with anytime in recent history I've actually
talked to personally.  I don't feel a sense of issue with any particular
person at this present time, and as far as past history, I don't know,
grudges tend to last a year or two with me, they don't tend to go far
back
so in trying to think of somebody that I haven't already done this
with, I just can't come up with one.  

BobS:  You want some of mine?  I would talk to a girl, now a woman, named X.
I remember the incident as though it was yesterday.  Back in the seventh
grade.  You sat behind me and a couple of seats to the left.  And one day
out of the blue you tell me you love me.  And I couldn't deal with that!  I
put you down and made fun of you, must have hurt you terribly.   You moved
shortly after that and I lost track of you.  But I still remember that day
as if it was yesterday.  And I ask for your forgiveness and hope and pray
your life has gone well and that you've found someone else more worthy than
me, and have had a wonderful life and family.  

(long silence)

Bill:  I want to relate, rather than do the exercise, something about myself
and my father.  My father was very hard on me as a child, and that is not
just my opinion as a child, but that is the opinion of many adults who
talked to me about as I grew up and especially as I became an adult.  And
they themselves were unable to explain the reason.  The result was that I
felt incompetent in many ways because I was always corrected for  my
mistakes and sometimes called names, and so forth.  I went through a similar
exercise to this many times in my 20's and 30's and 40's and made a lot of
progress in forgiveness.  But the crucial fact for me was the understanding
I gained from a psychiatrist friend of mine.  He explained to me that the
reason my father treated me this was that his mother died when he was 4.
And he as a little boy assumed responsibility for that.  When he grew up and
had his own son he projected that self-hatred on to me, rather than keep it
in himself.  And that explanation relieved me of the great question about
"Why did this happen to me?"  It had nothing to do with me as a child or as
an adult.  Now I've never told my father this, and I'm not sure that I can,
not because I'm afraid to, but I don't know whether he would understand, but
I would be willing to actually do that.  I did confront him once about how I
felt unloved and it made him extremely defensive - so much so that he wanted
to have a fistfight.  I know in his heart that he did the best he could. And
we don't have this relationship anymore, I'm not that little 4-yr-old.
Things are much better.  I just couldn't bring myself to try to act that out
in front of you all tonight, but I wanted you to know I've been thinking
about this.  I'll practice it in private and report back.

(long silence)

Alkon(Bill):  My dear friends, this is Alkon again.  As you practice your
meditation in your quiet time this week and as you talk with that one with
whom you are or have been offended with or whom you have injured, look past
the behaviors that have offended you - the words, the actions - and see that
essence of sonship/daughtership in the other person.  At the same time, see
it in yourself.  Let your Thought Adjusters communicate their love and your
love, one with the other.  At the same time, this is not a condoning of
error or sin.  This is not to say that in forgiveness you dispense with
assessment of wrongdoing.  Objectionable, immoral, self-centered,
controlling behaviors (and you all know what these entail) are not the will
of God.  They are evidence of imperfection, immaturity, and free-will
decision.  The behaviors are still to be condemned.  They are not to be OK'd
because ultimately, evil that results in sin and iniquity is
self-extinguishing.  It shall not last for all time.  

You have all made the decision to proceed to Paradise, and you are all
betrothed to your Adjusters.  Your engagement is wonderful to behold.  As
you proceed in your growth and as each person gives over to the  First
Source and Center their free will to comply and to joyfully do the will of
God, so will this whole Master Universe one day be completed in perfection
on the level of the Supreme and even on the level of the Ultimate.  

On behalf of the other teachers, I now draw our meeting to a close.  Enjoy
your spiritual adventures this week, and we look forward to our next contact
with you all.  Be at peace.  Good evening.